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3LNB Dish / 110-119 Signals?????

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by SomeRandomIdiot, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. SomeRandomIdiot

    SomeRandomIdiot Godfather

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    So this one took me back and I'm looking for a logical explanation.

    A friend in town had their 1st Generation Ka/Ku Dish's LNB go bad several weeks ago. D* sent someone out and they installed a new Slimline Dish.

    As I knew they had listened to the Xmas Music Channel last year, I told him to make sure he got a 5LNB dish so he could receive all the birds. Upon installation, he told me he checked the signal strength and had all birds present and accounted for.

    So....I am over there late yesterday and happen to glance up and said "Dude, you got hosed....you only have 3lnb dish - not a 5lnb dish." He assures me he can receive all the birds. We go inside and sure enough:

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    So, I go back outside again and look. I even get his ladder out of his garage and there is only 1 LNB (well the 3:1 99/101/103 Ka/Ku LNB) and certainly not a 110 or 119 LNB in sight.

    All my experience from the previous 5 years have been with 5 LNB Dishes, and I've never known anyone with a 3LNB Dish, but simple logic has me asking WTF is going on?

    Can someone explain where these phantom readings for 110/119 are coming from?
     
  2. BattleZone

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    They're coming from 101, of course. The receiver is set incorrectly to Slimline-5, when it should be set to Slimline-3. An SL3 LNB won't respond to the 22kHz switching tone that normally changes the switch from 101 to 110/119, so the 101 signal gets passed to the meter on the receiver, and the receiver "thinks" it is reading 110/119, even though it's actually reading 101.

    The receiver needs to be set to Slimline-3.
     
  3. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    The receiver is thinking it's selecting the 110/119 SATs, but since the SL3 is always outputting the 101, the receiver is "seeing" the 101 as 110/119.
    Changing the receiver's dish setup will remove the phantom SAT readings.
     
  4. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Just post 101W screen and you'll see where those signals coming from (btw, 119W tp24 must be not 0 for start ).
     
  5. jdspencer

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    Of course, the real test is to see if you can receive any music channels that are on 119.
     
  6. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Actually, if you see by your own eyes the dish has only one block LNBF (99/101/103) you don't need such real test.

    He is just need explanation of those SL numbers for 110/119 screens.
     
  7. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Thanks to everyone for the explanation. I knew Transponder 32 on 110 (or 12 after D* converts it) seemed lower than normal, but that ANY signal level was there had me wondering WTF was going on.

    So much for the D* installer resetting all the IRDs properly after he changed the 5LNB dish out.
     

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