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3TB and 4TB Drives. The Danger!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. Oct 2, 2012 #61 of 193
    harsh

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    I'm not sure how DIRECTV's version would be different. You would need the drive to be external to move it to a different unit.
    That's how DISH's EHD solution started.
    If they can play the content with WHDS, they've already demonstrated the ability to use a foreign key.
     
  2. Oct 2, 2012 #62 of 193
    harsh

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    You asserted (in the quoted text) that RAID is the best way to combat loss. I countered that not having the drive(s) running 24/7 is a better method to combat loss. Archiving to a live drive is not really archiving.

    You need to be specific about what kind of RAID you're talking about because half the RAID modes actually put you in a weakest link situation.
     
  3. Oct 2, 2012 #63 of 193
    BAHitman

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    Not necessarily... it could be a key exchange, or it could be that the source decrypts the video, then puts it in an encrypted transport stream to the target...
     
  4. Oct 2, 2012 #64 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    And it is...

    That's like saying not driving a car is the best way to not put miles on it. What a silly statement for you to make, not surprised really. You KNOW DVR's run 24/7, how would you expect them to not have a drive running in a DVR?

    I said nothing about archiving a live drive.

    If you had read what you quoted from me you would see that I clearly stated what RAID mode I was using.
     
  5. Oct 2, 2012 #65 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    This. :)
     
  6. Oct 2, 2012 #66 of 193
    Rich

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    That's what I do if I want to archive something. Haven't done it for quite a while. Yeah, I spent a good bit of money buying my own owned HRs (6), but at the time I was sick of getting replacements that didn't work. I solved that problem by buying my own replacements. The money I spent on the 2TB HDDs wasn't wasted, they migrate from failed HR to good HR without any problems and all I really use them for is backing up recordings.

    I'm not trying to "hurt" D*. Where did you get that idea from?

    Use what feature, I don't understand that question?

    Rich
     
  7. Oct 2, 2012 #67 of 193
    Rich

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    Seems so simple, doesn't it?

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  8. Oct 2, 2012 #68 of 193
    Rich

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    Our system allows us to record a series in its entirety. For programs such as 24, which had a very complex story line and multiple characters, the only way we/I could keep up with it was to watch the whole year's series one after the other in a wonderful week. Shows that don't have complex story lines, such as L&O: SVU we watch and delete immediately.

    I've got two seasons of Hawaii Five O and Bluebloods stored up. I don't like either show and my wife is never gonna watch all of them, but she likes them and I have plenty of room for them. Also have to factor my son's shows into the whole thing and my granddaughter's shows.

    I do have a lot of movies stored up.

    The real kicker here is: I, personally, do not watch much D* content except for football games (Giants and Jets) and, of course, the Yankees. I prefer NetFlix to D*.

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  9. Oct 2, 2012 #69 of 193
    Rich

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    Be nice and logical, wouldn't it?

    Rich
     
  10. Oct 2, 2012 #70 of 193
    Rich

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    I should have mentioned that I have the Premier movie package only because of the scripted shows. I really enjoy them and record them in their entirety. I don't think you can get the HBO shows on VOD if you don't subscribe to HBO. Don't know how it works with other channels.

    I've had a lot of instances of audio not being properly aligned with the video while watching VOD shows lately.

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  11. Oct 2, 2012 #71 of 193
    Rich

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    We don't disagree often, but I gotta disagree with you here. I have had very few HDD failures since '06. I have had one internal drive fail (a Seagate Cuda 1.5) and a couple external HDDs. I've had many, many HRs fail for reasons other than the HDDs.

    Rich
     
  12. Oct 2, 2012 #72 of 193
    Rich

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    Huh. Sounds more complicated than I thought.

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  13. Oct 2, 2012 #73 of 193
    Rich

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    That makes me feel better.

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  14. Oct 2, 2012 #74 of 193
    Rich

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    Hear that "whooshing" noise? That's the sound of your post going right over my head.... :lol:

    Rich
     
  15. Oct 2, 2012 #75 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    You're probably not alone. ;)
     
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    Rich

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    Sometimes I feel so ignorant. I could have paid more attention to computers, I was into them in the beginning, but never had the urge or the time to learn more about them. Too late now...:nono2:

    Rich
     
  17. Oct 2, 2012 #77 of 193
    RunnerFL

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    It's never too late. I learn something new every day.
     
  18. Oct 2, 2012 #78 of 193
    Rich

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    Me too, but I've got a lot of catching up to do just to understand some posts.

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  19. Oct 2, 2012 #79 of 193
    Rich

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    Please don't forget the topic of this thread is about the problems associated with using 3TB or 4TB drives and having the HR go south. I know how easy it is to go off topic, I do it all the time, but I think this is really important and we should deal with the main topic. Not trying to moderate, just a reminder. :)

    Rich
     
  20. Oct 2, 2012 #80 of 193
    Diana C

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    Rich....you should duck about now. :lol:

    Actually, OSX is a descendant of NeXT, which was derived from Unix and borrowed a few things from BSD Unix. BSD is another derivative of Unix that has evolved quite a bit since it's "mating" to NeXT and MacOS. Linux is yet a third derivative of Unix.

    All 3 operating systems have a common root, Unix, but evolved along different paths.

    Edit: One other thing....most of the networking layer in Microsoft Windows was adapted from BSD.
     

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