Would it be possible for any satellite manufacturer to make a Ku-capable satellite receiver any more useless than Motorola's 4DTV? When I first installed a 4DTV several years ago, there were several "predefined" Ku satellites, as well as at least four assignable C-band designations and four assignable Ku band ones (CA-CD and KA-KD). A year or so ago, there were just four predefined satellites and no assignable ones. That was a big problem for the sportsbar I was installing those receivers in. Today, I just installed a 4DTV receiver with 24 C-band defined satellites, and just one Ku band: SBS-6 And it gets worse. SBS 6 only has 19 transponders on it even though there is room for 32, 30Mz-wide transponders in that slot. The predefiined SBS-6 satelite recognizes only 19 transponders, but they aren't the exact same ones that SBS-6 uses. SBS 6 doesn't use the 19 lowest frequency transponders, but as far as I can tell, 4DTV tunes the 19 lowest, so I can't even manually tune anything above transponder 12 because the manual fine tuning only allows me to tune the natural transponder 19 up anouther 20Mz Bummer.