4K Receivers

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by toneil44, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. Jun 2, 2020 #1 of 25
    toneil44

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    Going from a Pioneer Elite 50" HD plasma TV (w/ HR34 receiver) to either an LG or Sony 65" 4K OLED in the main room. For the present time I am staying w/ the Sony 23" HD TV (w/ H24 receiver) in the kitchen.

    What are my options for DIRECTV receiver in the main room? Seeing as I have the Protection Plan it's a free receiver upgrade for me. I would like to keep the ability to watch, rewind and record local OTA stations via antenna in the guide just like it was satellite TV.
     
  2. Jun 2, 2020 #2 of 25
    compnurd

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    To do that you need a C61k client for the 4K and replace your 34 with a 54
     
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    trh

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    Unless you want to pay for extra equipment, HR54 on your 23" TV and C61K on your 4K TV.
    I don't believe the Genie 2 works with OTA, so the 54/61K mini is your only option for 4K in your main room.
     
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  4. Jun 3, 2020 #4 of 25
    toneil44

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    Thanks for the replies.

    What is LCC? With ATSC 3.0 coming in, is it possible to watch, rewind and record local OTA stations in 4K via antenna in the guide just like it was satellite TV?
     
  5. Jun 3, 2020 #5 of 25
    compnurd

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    No Directv does not have a ATSC Tuner. I dont think anyone does either yet
     
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    slice1900

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    The LCC is ATSC 1.0 only, it does not do ATSC 3.0. It isn't known whether Directv will ever have an ATSC 3.0 capable device, but I wouldn't hold my breath and if one comes it will be down the road since there's only one ATSC 3.0 station in the US so far.

    And I'm skeptical we will ever see 4K local broadcasts even with ATSC 3.0. Yes, the standard ALLOWS for 4K broadcasts, but it is more likely stations will use the additional bandwidth to carry other stuff (more subchannels, pay content etc.) rather than wasting so much of the total bandwidth on a single channel when providing free 4K doesn't make them a single dollar of additional revenue.
     
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    SledgeHammer

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    I'd say definitely no on DirecTV supporting it. The Genie2 doesn't even work with the LCC or AM21. They don't even give you the LCC unless you have a local in dispute and it'll only work on the HR54. A few TVs this year have ATSC 3.0 tuners.

    I'm surprised we don't have 4K prime time yet. I think the networks need it to compete with streaming.

    Somebody at some point mentioned that we wouldn't have 4K until the affiliates could do it as apparently they wouldn't be happy if only the main station could do 4K and they could only do HD.

    Then again, a lot of people say they can't see the diff lol.
     
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    slice1900

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    They make zero additional revenue from broadcasting in 4K unless they get a bigger audience. The idea more people will watch network programming because it is in 4K in ludicrous! You think CSI and The Bachelor would get better ratings if they were available in 4K? :rolleyes:
     
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    SledgeHammer

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    At first? Absolutely. After the novelty wears off, probably not. I won't see it'll be astronomical, but if CBS or whoever markets it as "Watch the first LIVE 4K Primetime broadcast of <insert hottest show at the time> tonight, only on CBS!" it'll definitely get a boost.
     
  10. toneil44

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    Thanks for your replies.

    Is HR54 w/ C61k client backwards compatible? I"ve got the DIRECTV tech here this coming week w/ the HR54/C61k. The new 4K TV for the main room arrives next month thus for 3 weeks or so I'll have HD in the main room.
     
  11. AZ.

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    Nothing backward about it....The HR54 dose not output 4k, the C61 outputs 4k....Like stated earlier, the HR 54 will have to be installed on 23" tv, or you will pay an extra $7 to have the HR54/and the C61k in the same room as the 4k tv....Your 23" tv will need the standard C61
     
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  12. James Long

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    Yes. The C61k will output HD so you will be able to use it before you get your 4K set in place. (It is not 4K output only.)
     
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    They now will install one without a 4k tv in the home?
     
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    They'll install as many as you're willing to pay for.
     
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    It used to be that you had to have a 4k set for every 4k client at the install. Has that changed?
     
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    Awhile ago
     
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    they flipped the switch to 3.0 in vegas
    Four Las Vegas TV Stations Launch ATSC 3.0, Next Gen TV Broadcasts - Cord Cutters News
     
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    Yes, four stations sharing ONE ATSC 3.0 channel. Certainly won't be any 4K on that. In Boise there's an ATSC 3.0 channel broadcasting 40 channels for a subscription MVPD. Also no 4K.

    ATSC 3.0 is coming, but there is zero indication that any 4K is going to come out of it for years, if ever.
     
  19. James Long

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    Baby steps. The big step is to get ATSC 3.0 tuners to be ubiquitous. Then broadcasters can work on transitions and improvements.

    But I agree - Without any driver, the transition will take years.
     
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    Thanks for all you posters help.

    Now that I have an HR54 and a C61k client installed on my HD TV. I'm seeing a couple of things I didn't expect to see: a WiFi icon in the channel banner and a listing for a DIRECTV WiFi network in my cellphone list of networks.

    Either the installer didn't explain it to me or he did and it was over my pay grade. I'm going to take a stab and say this is about how the HR54 and C61k client communicate. Let me know if I'm close.

    I'm in the midst of talking w/ my A/V installer and my cabinetmaker for 4K TV. When that happens, is all I need to do is connect the C61k client to the 4K TV? That would mean I would still see the WiFi icon and the DIRECTV WiFi network?
     

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