4K TVs with HDR and the picture settings

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  1. Feb 5, 2017 #1 of 40
    jimmie57

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    I got my Samsung KU7000 Nov 23rd of 2016. I stated in a thread about that time that I tried the HDR setting and did not like it.
    My second son got a Samsung KU6270 with HDR and he did the same thing. Well, he decides that since you can choose Reset at the bottom of all the settings he was going to experiment with it.
    Yesterday he wanted to come over and adjust my set. He did. It is Awesome with it in the HDR mode.
    Lots of the settings are changed from the original.
    Note that before I list this, every persons idea is different and you could adjust your setting way different than mine. It is just something to try with your set.

    Here we go:
    Picture Mode: Special Viewing: HDR+

    Expert Settings:
    Backlight 16 ( my son had it on 15 )
    Brightness 41 ( he had this at 48 )
    Contrast 92 ( this one he had at 85 )
    Sharpness 52 ( this was 50 )
    Color 46 ( this was 50 )
    Don't change the Tint
    Digital Clean View Auto
    Auto Motion Plus is OFF, LED ClearMotion is OFF
    HDMI UHD Color is set to ON
    Dynamic Contrast is High
    Color Tone is Standard
    RGB is set to OFF
    Color Space is Auto

    Play with it and you might be as pleased as I am with the changes.
    The dark black in scenes in Movies are truly black instead of dark gray

    Note that if you have set up a mode and like it, this will not change that mode.
    You can go back, turn HDR OFF and go right back to what you had with no adjustments to get there.
     
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  2. Feb 6, 2017 #2 of 40
    P Smith

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    What is your source of HDR video ?
     
  3. Feb 6, 2017 #3 of 40
    jimmie57

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    I am just watching DirecTV sat signal TV.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2017 #4 of 40
    P Smith

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    ah, so no HDR video at all :(
     
  5. Feb 6, 2017 #5 of 40
    jimmie57

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    Correct. But using the setting as previously stated makes a big difference.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2017 #6 of 40
    P Smith

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    I'm in doubts
    the settings affecting video stream with HDR data, what you have none so far

    imagine you did change settings how to process DD5.1, but in audio stream is Stereo MPEG-1 only
     
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  7. Feb 6, 2017 #7 of 40
    jimmie57

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    My son's Yamaha can change DD 5.1 to output 7.2. My other son's does 9.2.
    I can't explain it for the picture or the sound, but seeing the pic is all I need and hearing their systems with the more speakers is awesome.
     
  8. Feb 6, 2017 #8 of 40
    P Smith

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    well, I would imagine how AVR's digital processing working, like 5.1 to 7.2, it's well known trick
    but video !
    then we would go into SD->HD up-scaling; it would hard to build missing HDR data ... is a mfg's tech description of your model mentioned about pseudo-HDR mode ?
     
  9. Feb 6, 2017 #9 of 40
    jimmie57

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    No
    HDR+

    I know that you are aware that a 1080p TV upconverts a 480i signal to 1080p before it puts it to the screen and 4k sets do the same thing to 4k. So , why do you think they can not add the HDR factor into the upscaling ? The TVs have several different modes that you can choose and each one of them changes the way the picture looks. You have Dynamic, Standard, and Natural. Then there is sports mode. It changes the pic dramatically and it also changes the sound.
    Would it be even better if it were 4k HDR material. Possibly, I don't know since I do not have any of that nor a 4k Blu Ray player.

    Why can an HD signal come thru 1 strand of copper wire ( coax ) but then we have to have an HDMI cable that has about 18 wires in it for the HD or the Component cables that are 3 for video ? I don't know that either.

    You are way too technical for this discussion with me. If you have a set with HDR try it. If not then I don't see the point of the discussion.
     
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    HDR+ is debated alot on avsforums... kind of listed as a gimmicky feature
     
  11. P Smith

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    that was my though when jimmie57 described his "improvement" here
     
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    Seems like just about everything on AVS is debated a lot. Gotta be one of the most confusing sites...

    Rich
     
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    (1) Jimmie, don't you subscribe to AP or NF? Plenty of HDR content there. My new 8000 even notifies me of HDR content.

    (2) Always a good point. Those without 4K sets (and HDR sets) just seem to argue negatively about what we actually on a daily basis. I'm gonna reset my JS8500 (the 8000 I'm not touching, I'm happy with the PQ on that set) to your suggestions and see what happens...I'll be back.

    Rich
     
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    Pete! You got a 4K HDR set? I know you don't argue for the sake of arguing and I'm curious about your disagreement with Jimmie.

    Rich
     
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    Not only is there plenty of HDR content on AP and NF as Rich posted there's also a host of HDR content on 4K Ultra HD discs.
     
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    I only have DirecTV.
     
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    Would you like to pay extra for a TV that had a cable box built in even tho you think or at least
    For now don't subscribe to a cable service. A manufacturer can include a DIRECTV, Dish and cable STBs inside their TVs but first it would cost that much more and they could not make them thin enough. BTW, encryption is the key here.



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    He has a TV set that has the appropriate apps (NF and AP).
     
  19. jimmie57

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    True.
    Just a Tight Wad mot of the time.
     
  20. jimmie57

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    Whoosh.
    Do not have a clue what you are trying to say.
    My TV is an RVU built in. Apps built in, full web browser built in.
    Could not resist buying it when it was on sale for $749.

    My post was for people that have a 4k TV with HDR, tried the setting and did not like it like I did at first.
     

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