4K TVs with HDR and the picture settings

Discussion in 'High Definition Displays' started by jimmie57, Feb 5, 2017.

  1. peds48

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    I am not referring to those apps. I was answering his question about the coax.


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  2. SledgeHammer

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    If your blacks are gray instead of black, that means your brightness and/or contrast were out of wack. You can copy those from somebody else with the same TV to a certain extent, but all TVs are slightly different so best to use a calibration image to get those perfect for your TV.

    Deep color will have no effect on the DirecTV signal and may possibly "break" some devices.
     
  3. compnurd

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    Most TV's do not try to introduce HDR into the signal.. That seems to be a samsung exclusive thing for 2016 and appears to be going away for 2017
     
  4. jimmie57

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    Best Buy shows the following brands with HDR:
    LG
    Sony
    Vizio
    Hisense
    Samsung
     
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    He is saying that HDR doesn't come from the TV, it has to be in the source material. If a TV tries to turn SDR into HDR, its just fake HDR and isn't the real thing. Nothing on DirecTV has HDR. Netflix and Amazon have a mix of HDR and DolbyVision.
     
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    Yes, I am aware of that but it does not change the fact that setting my TV settings with it chosen makes a far better looking picture no matter what material is fed to it.
     
  7. peds48

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    I know it went over your head, but I tried to answer your question....


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  8. compnurd

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    HDR+ is a Samsung gimmick to add HDR into non HDR material.

    It is NOT the same thing as HDR as in your TV being able to display HDR source material Think of it as the showroom setting on a TV. It cranks up certain colors regardless if it oversaturates it
     
  9. jimmie57

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    Some fake things look as good as the real thing.
    Whatever it is, it looks better.
    This appears to have been a total waste of time since no one has reported that they tried it and it looked like crap or no difference or they liked it. I will think twice before posting another helpful ( at least I thought it was ) suggestion.
     
  10. P Smith

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    Yeah, got LG model (for while) and using different UHD/4K channels from different sats, with HDR and not, seen the difference. IMO, it's really remarkable and I'd like the enhancement.
    But not the "HDR+" gimmick, never saw it and very skeptical as in SD->HD conversion what I saw and see many times.
     
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    I'll try those setting with netflix

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  12. Rich

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    I did make a couple changes on the JS8500 that seemed to help. Gotta love well meant threads that turn into arguments. Just the nature of the beast, I guess. Keep the suggestions coming, I like them.

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    Just wanted to make sure you weren't falling into the habit of posting about something you know little of. Seen so many 4K "experts" putting 4K sets down for no good reason. And then finding out they don't own a 4K set.

    I tried one LG 4K, didn't like the way red showed up, took it back.

    Oh, now I see posts knocking Samsung TVs (not yours, Pete). That's rich.

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    Keep in mind, he put out those changes for a 7000 series Samsung TV. I don't see the same options on my two 8000 series sets. I'd like to see some settings for just the 8000 series TVs.

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  15. compnurd

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    TO Add the Samsung KU series does not display proper HDR. While it can receive the signal and play it. The TV does not support wide color gamut to display HDR properly
    That is because he has a KU Series which is 2016 set and you have a JS which is a 2015 set...

    Check here if you want to see some things

    **OFFICIAL** 2015 Samsung 4K SUHD JS8500 Series TV Thread - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews

    This was part of the point i was trying to get across here. HDR+ is a 2016 SAMSUNG ONLY "feature" Sony/LG/Vizio dont have that and if they do it is called something else
     
  16. jimmie57

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    It is actually listed as HDR Premium on the Samsung website. Not that it probably makes any difference.
    In all honesty I live chatted with them this morning and they said HDR did not work on 1080 signals. I asked them "then why can I see such a difference". They had no answer for that.
     
  17. compnurd

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    Oye

    All HDR Premium means is that the TV support 1000 nits for brightness and support WCG for a HDR SOURCE SIGNAL..

    As I stated above the reason you see a difference in HDR+ mode is because it is a similar setting to showroom mode on the TV for where it cranks up the brightness and color to pop in the store.. The problem with it is you get very bright and over saturated colors

    Actual HDR will not work or turn on unless you have a HDR source like Netflix/Amazon or a HDR Blu ray
     
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    When you choose to turn it on, the picture is actually a lot darker, not brighter.
    That is why I immediately decided that I did not like it when I first turned it on. The picture looked all washed out.
     
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    Point is.. Dont use it.. It is like turning on Sports Mode or some other samsung gimmick... When your TV gets an actual HDR signal.. it will know what to do with it
     
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    Sports mode is super bright, high color concentration and changes the sound. Funny thing about that mode is that when you turn the TV off, it then goes back to the mode you used before that. It is like they don't want you to use it all the time or they figure you will not be watching sports all the time.
     

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