4K update Technical Info

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by DIRECTV_Tech, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. SledgeHammer

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    Based on those two red parts I highlighted... DirecTV gets a big ol' honkin' PASS from me.

    Nice money grab though...

    +$300 to $400 in equipment upgrades
    +$75 service call

    +$3/mo for WHDVR
    +$3.65/mo for RSN
    +$25/mo to upgrade to ultimate
    +$6.50/mo for 2nd box

    I LOLed real hard at ~$40/mo for golf. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
  2. SledgeHammer

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    And? RVU in general gets lousy marks since you are asking the TV's already taxed CPU to do even more work. Plus, you get charged for another outlet either way.
     
  3. SledgeHammer

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    If you want to watch 4K golf, you'll need that extra client.
     
  4. mutelight

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    Seems you are a bit out of date. The Masters ended on the 10th of this month. Now the channel will be used for MLB games, along side the PPV and linear 4K channel.

    If I had to pay everything you listed, I wouldn't have gone for 4K it either but I would have Premiere and all my TVs connected anyway, so win-win for me.
     
  5. SledgeHammer

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    Yup. Sure seems like the Hopper 3 / Top 200 package for *at least* $40/mo less then DirecTV with much lesser equipment makes you think, hmmm.... and that's $40/mo difference with having to call in once a year and beg DirecTV for discounts vs. sticker price on DISH.

    I guess its a lot cheaper when they don't charge you all the bogus RSN, WHDVR, HD, duplicate outlet fees, etc., huh? :).
     
  6. mutelight

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    What does Dish offer as far as 4K that you couldn't achieve with a single payment $99 set top box?

    With Dish I would pay far more to get all the premiums after 3 months. Before the $15/mo charges kicked in on Dish after 3 months I would only be paying $20 less a month, then after that at least $50 more. Then I would still be paying the same amount per receiver as I am with DirecTV. I am assuming you are saying for a single TV setup at 4K but then again, you get a set top box for $99 that you pay once and get access to all the same content.
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    Let's NOT turn this thread into a trolling about dish.

    Let's get back to the topic
     
  8. SledgeHammer

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    Nobody has any real 4K channels yet. Yeah, I'm talking 4K setup on a single outlet. DirecTV has no such thing since you need to pay for a 2nd outlet on your 1 TV if you want 4K since the HR54 doesn't have native 4K support. [MOD EDIT] IMO [/MOD EDIT]

    No point in me switching to anybody right now as its a lot of hassle. Once 4K channels start coming online, I'll probably start looking at jumping ship as DirecTV is just not keeping up with Dish (or anybody else) lately and they are not price competitive (with anybody) without begging for discounts.
     
  9. mutelight

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    DirecTV has 3 linear 4K channels currently. One is PPV, one cycles through IMAX documentaries, and a concert, then the 3rd is reserved for live broadcasts.

    I am certainly not going to say that the hardware investment is worth it if your only goal is 4K since the content is so limited but if you already have two TVs that you have services on and a supported package, it is a no brainer. Otherwise just get a $99 set top box and you will get more 4K content than either satellite provider and only miss some live broadcasts.
     
  10. Shockee

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    I have the DTV protection plan too and am eligible for an equipment upgrade. I have a 4K Samsung display with the built in RVU client. I want to dive into DTV 4K but don't want to upgrade my Total Choice package to Ultimate. I already am paying for many channels I never watch. The Ultimate package requirement is ridiculous. Do you think they would upgrade my equipment without the Ultimate package requirement? I've been a loyal customer!!
     
  11. P Smith

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    Just play roulette and call DTV a couple times; regardless what we answering you, the decision on DTV
     
  12. slice1900

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    They've stated pretty clearly what the package requirements are, I doubt you would be able to get it with a lower package no matter how many times you call. They probably enforce it in the computer system so even if the CSR is willing, the system probably isn't.

    You will just have to wait, I really doubt that requirement will remain forever, at some point when there is more 4K than just a few special events they might change it. However, you should expect you will have to pay something extra - if not package requirements then some sort of 4K fee like the HD fee there used to be (and still is for customers that have been around a few years or longer)
     
  13. P Smith

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    Well, slice - that was a req to watch linear channels, particularly Masters and MLB, but he's lawfully could watch 4k VOD with new equipment.
    Duh ?
     
  14. slice1900

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    They won't upgrade him to an HR54 for VOD, since it isn't needed.

    Another thing he could try is to sign up for the required package and get his upgrade, then drop the package back down. He'd lose the live 4K stuff, but he'd have the upgrade.

    Personally if the current 4K offerings and conditions don't work for one, I'd say to wait until the next gen equipment is out end of this year / early next year. You might end up kicking yourself for upgrading to the HR54 if the new stuff is much better and you've already used up your upgrade.
     
  15. mutelight

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    This is a good recommendation because hopefully the next Genie will output 4K locally without the requirement for the RVU or client.

    The OnDemand 4K (and particularly linear) content is pretty limited right now so a 4K set top box that offers Netflix, Amazon, Vudu, and YouTube will give you far more 4K content.
     
  16. bobnielsen

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    They might, but the only 4K you will be able to watch is the PPV movies on ch. 105 and On Demand downloads. Hopefully this will change in the future, as the Ultimate requirement will limit the number of customers for 4K.
     
  17. slice1900

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    Perhaps, but if I had to bet I'd say there won't be another Genie (it will be called something else) and it won't output video at all. All video output will be done via clients or RVU.
     
  18. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I'd file that under "doubtful".
     
  19. CraigerM

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    I wonder why they decided to go this route? Was it cheaper than tuner based devices and having HDMI output to 4k on the main server? Don't some people find clients slower than the tuner based boxes and have connection problems to the server? I can see some advantages and some disadvantages.
     
  20. James Long

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    That proposal sounds like a "gateway" box that will allow consumers who own their own generic receivers to connect to satellite services. We have had a few threads on the concept.

    I would not say that AT&T|DIRECTV has decided to go that route. At this point I'd say that it is a rumor - and that may be giving the story too much credit.
     

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