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4k Upgrade Question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by TDockUSC, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Aug 7, 2018 #1 of 28
    TDockUSC

    TDockUSC Cool Member

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    Myrtle...
    First of all, I apologize in advance if this has been asked before (as I assume it has.) I've just taken the plunge into 4k televisions and am quite overwelmed with how complicated it's gotten. I've looked over previous threads and can't figure out what my best option is.

    My current setup (I am currently out of contract.)
    (1) HR44
    (1) C41
    (1) C51
    (2) HR21 (on HD but not 4k tvs)
    All wired.

    I've purchased 2 4k tvs and plan to add third and am considering calling DirecTV about a 4k upgrade but I have no idea what to ask for.

    As best I understand it, if I get the HS17, then every tv uses a client and only 2 can have a 4k signal at one time. Can I connect 5 tvs to the HS17?

    I am not as familiar with the HR54, but understand that the primary tv it's connected to cannot receive a 4k signal? That doesn't work for how I have my house configured.

    So based on my current situation, what do you guys recommend if I want to have the ability to watch 4k on 3 tvs (not all at same time) and have HD on the other 2?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Aug 7, 2018 #2 of 28
    carl6

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    HS17 and three clients. For 4K, the client must be the C61K.

    However, keep in mind, with the HS17 you cannot have any other model receiver or DVR, so the HR21s and HR44 will have to go. You might have trouble getting three C61K given you will only have two 4K televisions.
     
  3. Aug 8, 2018 #3 of 28
    trh

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    The 54 is pretty much the same as your 44 except it can feed one 4K signal to a C61K. With 2 C61Ks, the second would only be able to watch HD while the other is watching 4K.

    The 54 can go on any TV in your house. If you keep your HR21, I'd recommend putting the 54 on your most used non-4K TV.

    If you go with the HS17 to get 2 4K streams, be forewarned: DIRECTV CSRs seem to think your clients all have to be wireless. Not true. Since your house is already wired at each TV location, you can use that same coax. (If you do go with the HS17, download the Manual from their site. Have it available when they says wireless only. Then you can quote multiple pages where it says 'wired and wireless clients'.)
     
  4. Aug 8, 2018 #4 of 28
    WestDC

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    First 4K TV's are Nice to have but D* Content is Limited to the point of Pay per View - Golf - and 4K Cooking Shows - So having more than 2 people watch D* 4K - is really NOT a issue today!

    AS suggested Go with HS-17 with 3 C61K-700 (WIRED) and your setup for Today and Next year
     
  5. Aug 8, 2018 #5 of 28
    TDockUSC

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    Myrtle...
    Thanks to all...2 points of clarification.

    I have 5 TVs...will the HS17 support that many clients?

    If I go with the HR54, can I keep my HR21s?

    And to WestDC's point...it's possible I do nothing for the reasons stated. So little 4k content might make this not worth the hassle.
     
  6. Aug 8, 2018 #6 of 28
    carl6

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    5 TV's, yes.
    HR54 + HR21s, yes.
     
  7. Aug 8, 2018 #7 of 28
    dod1450

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    You do not need the C61K if your TV has the directv 4k application. But you will still be charge for the client connection.
     
  8. Aug 8, 2018 #8 of 28
    compnurd

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    Going to dispute that. The entire World Cup was in 4K. And there has been more baseball games then golf
     
  9. Aug 8, 2018 #9 of 28
    WestDC

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    World up is over -and sports in 4k are once a week maybe -NOT enough to fill 3 4k tv's all at once - was my point
     
  10. reubenray

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    This is why I will not upgrade to 4k unless Directv gives me the equipment. I will not pay their costs for the HR54 ($299) plus the C61K ($99) with very little to watch. I plan on checking this option out early next year when my discounts run out.
     
  11. Grafixguy

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    That is a valid point. I called a year ago when my contract was up and was given the 4K upgrade (HS17 and clients) for free along with a $75/month discount for a year. I will also point out the 4K sports offering go well beyond one game a week and include MLB, EPL Soccer, college football, NBA, NHL, and other special events.

    I get that some people are not into it, but for those that are, the PQ is stunning.
     
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  12. reubenray

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    I have been watching a few 4k shows using Amazon Prime the last week or so. Would I see any difference between the Directv 4k and Amazon 4k? Some of the video's i watched from Amazon were not any better than my PQ of my OTA antenna on a local station. These were in 1080i.
     
  13. bmcleod

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    From a comment someone made, it seems a C61K can be setup on a UHD TV and then moved to an HD TV. I guess my question is: Are any of the clients tied to the set they were installed with?
     
  14. slice1900

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    The client doesn't care what TV they are connected to any more than a DVR does.
     
  15. Grafixguy

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    There's a point where you'd need a machine to measure any differences and we're fast approaching that. Amazon's 4K is excellent as is Netflix and DTV.
     
  16. mstenbrg

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    I got a 4k upgrade and told them I had 2 4K TV's when I only had 1. They installed the 4K client on the non 4K TV. The installer said it looks like this one is not 4K, but left it. I can now upgrade that TV later and not need to upgrade the client.
     
  17. carl6

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    Also worth noting, a C61K will allow you to watch 4K content on a non-4K television, whereas a lesser client will not. Of course, it is only in 1080p, not 4K, but nevertheless, it can be watched.
     
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  18. bmcleod

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    I noticed the client setup/activation software actually looks at the TV’s EDID and reports if it’s 4K capable (giving the installer the go ahead), which means it could also store the serial number and tie the client to that TV (if they wanted). If a DVR has both HD and UHD recordings, it might also look at the EDID to see if the TV is 4K capable (but it shouldn’t care which TV it is).
    My first installer wouldn’t leave a C61K with a non 4K TV, however I might have been able to push the issue and set the client up on a separate HDMI port of a 4K TV, then move it.
     
  19. bmcleod

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    That is interesting, so it downscales, nice feature!
     
  20. slice1900

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    But why would they, what would they get from doing that? Then you'd have to call Directv every time you bought a new TV, or switched things around between rooms. They want to reduce their support costs, not increase them!
     

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