4k via RVU vs 4k Mini

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  1. DAr1zzl3

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    Well, I did notice it's not as responsive as the HR54, especially when going through the Menu, but then again the HR54 did also get slower when going through the Menu and settings with the new GUI / update...

    Actually, I figured it out. I'm using a Sony X850C that was recently updated to support HLG, but it seems like my Onkyo (656) Receiver can't handle the 4:4:4 signal that C61K is outputting (even tho I also recently updated the FW on my AVR for Dolby Vision passthrough). It seems all my other devices XB1X, PS4 Pro and Shield TV play HDR material just fine, but they're all set to 4:2:0... So my 4K Mini has to be plugged in directly to the TV for me to get DTV HDR.. And now I gotta get on optical cable.. and look into in a new AVR soon..
     
  2. WestDC

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    I would suggest a STDN-1080 (sony) AVR - Mine works great! with my XBR65x900E enjoy!
     
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  3. DAr1zzl3

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    Yes, that's what always bothered me about DTV. I was basically getting charged for 2 receivers on the same TV (the RVU and the HR54 - and there was no way around it). Now, at least I'm still paying the receiver fees (well, paying for 2 and 1 of them is "free" or credited every month), but it's actual hardware boxes, and I could connect them to 2 different TVs if I had them in the same room (which I don't). But it will also make it easier for me when I do upgrade my TV in the near future...

    The tech that did the install for me yesterday spent 80% of the time on the phone with DTV trying to figure out how to replace the RVU w/ a 4K Mini in the system... It involved them tweaking the order and resetting all devices, deactivating the RVU and then installing the C61K like it was a "new" location... In other words it can be done, just hope that your tech knows how the system works...

    Also, I got them to only charge me $50 for the 4K Mini with a free tech visit/install because I've been a "loyal customer", but I did have to agree to 24-month agreement because it's new hardware.. something I had already done anyway for a wireless receiver just a few weeks before so I had already swallowed that pill.. (YMMV)
     
  4. DAr1zzl3

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    I had the 1050 or 1060 before I went to the Onkyo, mostly because Sony was being super slow in adding Atmos support... I may consider going back to Sony again as I get a company discount... I did like the clean sound it produced.
     
  5. WestDC

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    In my Basement I have a 1070 connected to a sony 70" LCD (2014) _ ihad been a Onkyo Guy Since 1993 but they lost me 2011 I bought a 606 and they repaired it 3 times and it still failed again - so that's when I went to 1040 and up from there. LOL

    It does have and support Atmos-
    Sony STR-DN1080

    And it's been on sale a few times for 398 as well maybe latter on
     
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  6. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    duh ? damn of my bot !
    perhaps you will provide deep technical description what Color Test do and how it do ?
     
  7. I WANT MORE

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    Now we're discussing AVRs here. :-(
    I just returned my 1080 for a Pioneer 302.
    My other AVRs are all Pioneer, thought I'd try a Sony to go with my 900e.
    BIG MISTAKE.
     
  8. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    any particular reason ?
     
  9. Rich

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    I have tried some other AVRs and always go back to using my Sony AVRs. I like the way they sound too.

    Rich
     
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  10. cebbigh

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    I have a Samsung KS8000 TV (RVU capable) and an HR44 and now that Directv is doing HLG programs I am seriously thinking about making the jump to 4K from Directv.

    I've had the TV for almost a year and didn't see a huge reason to do it because between a Roku Ultra, the built-in smart apps and my 4k BD player I have access to a huge amount of HDR material and am spoiled to the point on 1080P that I tend to just stream programs that I would normally watch on Directv.

    And I have happily been out of a commitment period for over 2 years now which is great.

    But HLG is a big deal. Problem is how to get it. Apparently there is a handshake problem between Directv and the KS8000 when connected by HDMI that, at least for now, rules out HDMI clients for HLG.

    From what I have read HLG does work on the KS8000 via RVU. Does anyone know if this is true and is it a good option?

    As I now have an HR44 am I correct in thinking that I would need to replace it with an HR54 to get 4K even if I connect the RVU? Is there a way to do that without triggering another 2 year commitment? (like maybe purchasing one of my own and then just returning the leased HR44).

    Sorry if these are obvious questions for you guys. I used to be a lot more into these things but haven't paid a lot of attention because the issues were pretty cut and dried with my old 1080P tv (RIP).
     
  11. Rich

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    We have four 4K Samsungs. One is a KS8000. I like the PQ on all the sets. But Sammy can be a PITA. No doubt about that. I have the 8000 on a soundbar, had an awful experience with a JS8500 with a Sony AVR connected by HDMI. All kinds of problems. Bought a Denon AVR, same problems, sent it back. 4K technology and HDMI cables and One Connect boxes make for all kinds of problems. Naturally, if you own a Sammy with an umbilical cord you have no HDMI ports on the TV itself. You have to use the One Connect box.

    Rich
     
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  12. cebbigh

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    Did some research and have pretty much ruled out RVU.

    Will most likely wait til this summer and hopefully by the the HLG handshake issue will be solved and I'll try to get a free year of ST to go along with the HR/HS upgrade and the dreaded commitment.

    Yeah, love the KS8000 and have come to hate Samsung. They make promises just to break them as soon as a new model year rolls around. This is the first Samsung I've owned and will be the last. But the TV itself is awesome.
     
  13. Rich

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    At the moment we have three 4K sets. JS-KS-MU. So different and only a year apart. All have some issues playing nice with peripherals. I gotta say, I had worse issues with other maker's sets. I didn't try an OLED but I tried several others and none had the PQ the Sammys do. I think we're almost finished replacing plasmas, don't see the need for anymore 4K sets, just need 2 cheaper sets for rooms where nobody cares about resolution. I bought a TCL Roku enabled set a couple weeks ago, 1080p, nice little set at very reasonable price (~$250) for a small bedroom. My granddaughter could care less about 4K sets, she seems very happy with the TCL.

    Rich
     
  14. mutelight

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    I see you already opted for the mini but I was just going to chime in and mention that I haven't noticed that much of a difference between RVU on my main TV and the client on my other TV. The mini seems a bit quicker but not by much and the performance of the UI seems to vary wildly anyway on both the RVU and Client. Isn't the server rendering and sending the UI anyway?

    Oh really? That is a huge bummer!

    When I got my system installed a couple years ago, I opted for two 4K Clients then a couple months later I connected my TV directly into my LAN (didn't want to bother with the DECA route) and transferred the authorization from the client to the RVU. If I ever choose to go back to the client it sounds like I am going to have to call DirecTV it seems then. :(
     
  15. compnurd

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    Only the HS17 has client tracking. If you have a HR54 you can still swap between
     
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  16. mutelight

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    Ahhh, gotcha, thanks for the clarification!
     
  17. hancox

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    1) That's awesome. Has anyone confirmed this with the new GUI on a 54 yet? I might soon, due to HDR not working on HDMI on Samsung TVs.
    2) Yet another HS17 downgrade. Amazing.
     
  18. slice1900

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    That "downgrade" is one of the steps that will be necessary for Directv to support multiple Genies on an account someday. I don't know for sure they plan to do this, of course, but given the HS17 doesn't work with older hardware it feels pretty obvious to me that's the plan since there's no way Directv is going to abandon all their higher end customers who have more than 4-5 TVs.
     
  19. compnurd

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    Yes I recently upgraded some old C41's to 61's with the new GUI
     
  20. WestDC

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    I didn't opt for RVU -Main Reason - Should the TV have be replaced for any reason - you need to have the replacement re-authorized before you can use it. With a Receiver you can just reconnect it.
     
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