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4th Wave of HD launches on DTV

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by coldmiser, Oct 15, 2007.

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  1. Lord Vader

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    I neglected to mention that people can still get HD via OTA. Of course, that only would work if (a) they're physically able to have some sort of antenna with which to receive said signals, and (b) live "close enough" to get them WITH that antenna.
     
  2. rbonzer

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    I wouldn't necessarily call them stupid. After all, when converting from black and white to color, this is all they had to do.
     
  3. Lord Vader

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    I'd still call them stupid. And most of them try out for game shows, too. :p
     
  4. motts

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    Well, any old antenna works to pick up an hd signal. I see the advertisements for "hd antennas" costing a pretty penny when it's the same damned thing with a different name. I use the antenna that was on my house when my family first got cable in the 80's to pick up my locals in hd. There has to be a good chunk of the populace that will do just that, and, inadvertently pick up the hd signal they didn't even know about (provided that their locals are available in hd.)
     
  5. Lord Vader

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    Except that as I mentioned, one has to be able to receive the signals. Distance and terrain may often cause problems in that regard. Putting up a big traditional antenna on a house can often help, but for those who live 40, 50, 70, or more miles away and in a condo or apartment, for example--and there are a LOT of these people around--will find it nearly impossible to get OTA signals.
     
  6. sb40

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    I need to know.

    Is that with the NEW LNB5 AND NEW STB HR-20, H-20 and on the "NEW CHANNELS" If ConCAST has better picture then the NEW channels on D* I would eat my shoe.
     
  7. gjh3260

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    Will stick with Dish through April since I have the Center Ice package. If nothing happens by then with E* and their HD some decisions will have to be made.
     
  8. lpmiller

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    switching over channels for something that will eventually equalize seems silly. Everyone will have most everything, kind of like they do now with SD. The only race is the timing, and to me that is irrelevant if they all end up in the same spot anyway.
     
  9. normang

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    This grass is greener stuff is really silly, its only a matter of time before each has the same with some exceptions on each side.

    And of course there is the questionable watch-ability of a number of the channels, even now on both sides, some channels will be stared at for a total of a few minutes..

    To sell your old gear, return leased gear, wait for the end of contracts, install all new Dish's, new hardware, new switches, all for a couple extra channels that will more than likely show up on Dish eventually, because I doubt that Dish is going it sit on its hands and let Direct out do them in the HD channel dept..
     
  10. ssmith10pn

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    Hard to beat a DISH DVR with external HD. I'm staying put.
     
  11. Lord Vader

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    Huh? I've got a DirecTV HR20-700 with an external eSATA drive of 1TB. And I didn't have to fork over a $39.99 activation fee for that drive. I literally plugged and played it, and thankfully, D* is soon planning on making those external drives supplementary and not a replacement for the internal one.

    Can't get much easier than this for external drives!
     
  12. BNUMM

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    I believe people have mentioned that they are using 3 Terabytes in posts on the DirecTv side of the forum.
     
  13. Lord Vader

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    I think so. I'm fine with a 1TB drive in an Antec enclosure. So far so good for me, so I can't complain, knock on wood.
     
  14. texaswolf

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    that is the ONLY reason i'm still with E*...the whole "they will get them eventually" is getting old. A lot of people watch most of their shows on those channels. I do not want to wait until February to get them...wait 4 months? By then what else will D* offer? E* has horrible marketing with not telling anybody what they are planning or at least attempting. We just see the channels when they pop up...like I said...it's getting old...equipment will only keep me around for a little while.
     
  15. normang

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    So you expect within what, hours, days, for E* to be able to add any channel you want, just because it showed up somewhere else?

    Last time I checked, each and every channel costs money, requires a contract with the provider, needs space on a transponder, and who knows what all else, and you seem to expect that its just going to go "poof" and appear in your guide just because it showed up on D*?

    If you can't wait, and your not under a contract (for if you are, be ready to pay that early termination fee) and return that leased gear, ( or try and sell your stuff) and then get into a new contract, get all new gear installed, new dishes installed, and then hope its as good as you think it will be... then do it now.. why wait...
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong...but hasn't D* been claiming to do this for months? Granted we all figured it was blowing smoke....but "poof"...here they are...so yeah...i do expect E* to have something, or tell us something, or respond in someway...it wasn't "hours" or "days" that E* knew about this...the "leader" in HD should have been ready for this. I know it takes money to get channels...something E* doesn't seem quick to spend. I would be happy if Charlie came out and said "we plan to launch such and such in HD around this time" at least we have an idea what they are working on....but we get nothing...customer support doesnt even have a clue on what they are working on...leaves all of us in the dark ...hoping...guessing....we will hear or get something soon.

    Like I said...I like E* equipment better...thats why I haven't "just switched now" but i would like to hear something about their plans. Yes I am under contract...so it would cost me a nice "fine" to get more HD content. Not to mention...we can"t even get the CW in HD...if they wont spend money for that local station...I don"t expect quick deals with bigger networks.
     
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    For months E* was the leader, and D* was blowing smoke, and now they've finally implemented what they were saying.

    Should E* have been ready for this, last time I checked, they've added what, nearly a dozen HD channels in the past 2.5 months? Probably there is more to come, but Dish doesn't seem to do what D* did and blow smoke for months, they seem to want to have it nearly ready to go before announcing. Would I like more info, sure, but sometimes giving out information and not being able to deliver on time causes more problems than saying, here it comes.

    While I don't understand all the issues, CW does seem to be unique and may or may not be a part of locals in any area for a while and if you cannot get it with your 6/722 HD OTA, then its just not there..

    I would not expect CSR's to tell you anything either, even if they knew something, chances are they could be terminated for giving out information that people should not know in advance. Companies choose when and how to reveal things in what they feel will do them the most good. D* blew smoke and mirrors for months.. I would have preferred that they announce it when they were ready to go, not sit around and wonder if they would ever deliver.

    So now D* finally delivers, and here we discuss "should I switch?" well the grass isn't always greener on the other side and even if it is, there is usually a hassle and expense to get there..

    And I happen to believe that most of these channels will appear on Dish sooner or later anyway. I don't think its if, its when. There are probably going to be some exceptions, and so each side will be going "I have this one and you don't"... yay - corporate pissing match over perhaps a couple channels that perhaps some significant percentage may not care about anyway, hard to say until the playing field levels off and I suspect that is going to take a few more months.. and I don't mind waiting.. as I don't see much that I am missing. There are a couple channels I see as interesting, and I expect those to show up.. Dish is probably being deluged for channel requests from this anyway.
     
  18. ScoBuck

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    I guess you haven't had a chance to read the press release they put out today. No smoke in those comments. :nono2: :nono2: :nono2: :nono2:

    DISH Network®, home of the best sports and movies in high definition :nono2: :nono2:

    75 National HD channels :nono2: :nono2:
     
  19. texaswolf

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    Sure be a little loose on release date...but how about a..."we are working to add "these" channels for our customers" instead of "we will offer HD channels when they become available" which is the same as "when we get them we get them". We dont even know if what they are trying to get....i dont want smoke and mirrors...but a heads up that we are working on these channels...might keep a few more people around. As far as the "hassle" of switching if someone wanted...new dish and all that....1 afternoon appt. will take care of it...thats not much of a fear as it would seem. Thats the great thing about choices, people can switch whenever (contract aside). I had switched from charter and love dish compared to them, but with D* smoke becoming reality now...it's annoying. You may not care about getting those channels in HD, but a lot of customers do...BSG, Nip Tuck, Rescue Me ect. are highly acclaimed and watched shows that are done in HD. Take a look at any HD or Sat. boardout there and there are a lot more E* customers out there talking about making the leap if they don't hear anything soon....key word is HEAR....what a surprise we don't get charlie chat this month...the month D* finally came through...be nice to hear his comments.
     
  20. texaswolf

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    Yeah...losing MLB was a major blow also....like I said...they don't like to pony up the $...look how long BIG 10 took to get...after MUCH complaining.
     
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