$5.00 for the new Dodgers channel.

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  1. JoeTheDragon

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    do they want full price even in the outer rings? Basic even in the outer rings?
     
  2. Gloria_Chavez

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    Last year Fox Sports offered The Clippers (Steve Ballmer) 60M for TV rights. Ballmer asked for 100M a year.
    A couple of months ago, Fox Sports cut its bid to 50M per year.
    The Clippers may be the first team to experiment with OTT.
     
  3. slice1900

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    If all these LA teams were on a single channel with alts, they might be able to get $10/month collectively. But trying to get basically $4 per team was never going to fly, especially given how disloyal teams have been to LA over the years (OK that's primarily been an NFL thing, but there's nothing that would stop one of LA's baseball or basketball teams moving if they could get a better deal somewhere else)
     
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  4. James Long

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    It is still a one team channel and still overpriced. Perhaps $2 per subscriber will get one major provider to add the channel and the others will follow suit? The automatic price increases would need to be minimal.
     
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  5. inkahauts

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    Where did you hear that price for the Lakers channels?
     
  6. inkahauts

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    Where did you hear about then lowering their offer? I hadn't seen that.
     
  7. slice1900

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    The article linked earlier mentioned it (or maybe it was an article linked in that article)

    I know I saw it today, and it sounds like the MVPDs paying it have buyers remorse since the Lakers have been, shall we say, underperforming of late. I don't think they want to lock themselves into another expensive long term deal when there is no guarantee the Dodgers won't have a similar collapse. Sure, there will be a lot of sentimental viewing among long time fans with Sculley's last season, especially in September, but once he's gone they are going to have to perform well to draw viewers.
     
  8. keenan

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    It was the article linked to above,

     
  9. inkahauts

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    As usual I don't see the finer details. That's for two channels not one. They have a Spanish channel and an English one with completely different setups and on screen graphics and so forth.


    And they carry a lot more than just dodgers unlike the dodgers channel.

    And as much as they may say buyers remorse I still fully believe in the long run the Lakers channel is far more valuable than a Dodgers channel will ever be to tv viewership.

    As for short term the Lakers have sucked this year. But that will turn around. The Dodgers are much much easier to see in person though than the lakers. One reason I think their tv deal is more important than the Dodgers one.

    I hope that the Clippers don't go their own channel though.
     
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    HoTat2

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    You're right ... same result. .. latest offer rebuffed.

    TWC now gives up trying. Openly concedes failure to gain carriage. Other MVPDs simply refuse to budge.

    And who can blame them?

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-time-warner-cable-throws-in-towel-dodger-channel-20160331-story.html

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    slice1900

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    It sucks for Dodgers fans, but in the long run it is what the TV industry needed to start putting some brakes on the spiraling sports rights costs.
     
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    joshjr

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    "If the deal goes through, as expected, Charter also would inherit the ruckus over distribution of SportsNet LA."

    I wont hold my breath on that. DirecTV was purchased by AT&T and we dont have the PAC-12 Networks yet. Just because someone who already has the rights buys someone else who does not, does not mean that its a definite that its going to happen especially right away.
     
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    TJNash

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    I can't figure out what your comment has to do with this topic? The quoted statement is an obvious fact.
     
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    HoTat2

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    I imagine since the linked news article at one point whimsically described the situation as that although TWC "struck out" in their efforts, Charter was "warming up in the bullpen" asthough they might make a difference like a figurative relief pitcher and break the stalemate to this mess.

    And joshjr was warning not to get too hopeful of that...

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    joshjr

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    I should have worded it better. I was trying to say its not a given that Charter customers would have access to the Dodgers Channel. DirecTV customers still dont have access to the PAC 12 networks even though AT&T has a deal for the channels on their U-Verse product. I was trying to say its not a foregone conclusion that Charter would right away have the channel available to its customers.
     
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    KyL416

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    Charter already made the channel available last year when they announced their intention to buy Time Warner Cable:
    http://www.sportsnetla.com/charter

    But because TWC and Charter don't directly compete, and how small of a presence Charter has in Dodger's territory, it didn't really change anything except make the channel available to a few more areas. Much larger areas in the territory served by Comcast and Cox still don't have any option to get the channel.

    The only thing that might possibly change is if as part of the approval, they're forced to divest TWC Sportsnet and Sportsnet LA and the only thing Charter gets is the cable systems. But since Charter doesn't actually own any RSNs outside of some small hyper-local ones that only carry high school sports and have the local rights to one of the syndicated NCAA packages and the only pro sports are in areas where the channel also doubles as the home of the RSN overflow, that will probably be a non issue. Compared to Comcast who owns multiple broadcast, cable channels and RSNs, and had the balls to make a system swap proposal that would give them control of all the Time Warner, Brighthouse and Charter systems serving areas where they own a broadcast station or RSN that would have never been approved.
     
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    HoTat2

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    Yep,

    Sort of like an advanced gift from TWC for the pending merger which DIRECTV criticized at the time as Charter receiving a "sweetheat deal" from TWC.

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    James Long

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    According to the most recent article TWC wanted the same for their channel as AT&T|DIRECTV charges for Root NW ---

    Here is the content on Root NW -
    http://northwest.rootsports.com/teams/

    Several teams and plenty of other content.
     
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    slice1900

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    If the Charter deal goes through, they can offer the channel at a price the market will bear and take an immediate writedown to cover the entire future loss on the difference between what they are paying the Dodgers and what they are collecting for the channel. TWC can't do that now, they can only take losses each year as they occur.
     
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