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722 or 722K??

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by Al_Chicago_DN, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. Jimmy the Dish

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    Since the lauch of ceil (new 129 bird) and the changing of channels and transponders on 129 it doesn't surprise me.
     
  2. Jim5506

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    With the new 129 satellite you should have signal strengths in the 50's or 60's, if you do not, your dish needs to be re-peaked.

    If you have good signal strenght readings and still experience dropouts, you either have a flaky lnb, a wiring problem or a faulty receiver.
     
  3. tomkind80

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    Can I get a yea or nay on this please:

    Had the 722k for about 2 weeks. Everything has worked perfect so far. Bought the OTA card for $40 from Dish, then I read this thread and another like it and got scared to put it in. If all is good so far, but I want the extra tuner should I put it in and hope or wait until E* fixes a bug? Appreciate the help on this and the insight throughout the site.

    EDIT: I had a 622 for a couple of years and my HD OTAs worked great on it.
     
  4. ChuckA

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    I believe the initial 722k does have an issue with OTA signal droping out on only specific channels, even when that channel has a good signal strength. I expect this will be corrected by software sooner than later. The module is easy to install so I would give it a try. If you have issues with it causing loss of signal on sat channels you can always remove it.
     
  5. Mike Greer

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    I am considering a 722k becuase of the 2 ota tuners but maybe I'll wait a bit...

    Is it possible to use all 4 tuners at the same time? I assume you can use at least 3 like the older receivers...

    Thanks!
     
  6. Ron Barry

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    My understanding is that you can use all 4 at one time.
     
  7. ChuckA

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    4 at once.
     
  8. Mike Greer

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    4 at a time is great!

    Any word if someday you will be able to network multiple VIP DVRs to get some kind of common list of recordings and be able to play recordings from one DVR on another? Something like MRV that DirecTV has been working on for years but is still not yet ready?
     
  9. ChuckA

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    You can sneakernet the EHD!
     
  10. Mike Greer

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    Get outa here!

    I was hoping for a more elegant solution. I'd like to be able to have 3 of them networked together and be able to play back content on any of them from any of them.

    DirecTV will likely have a painfully slow version of this on the HR2X recievers sometime in 2020. Maybe 2018 if things go well.

    The sneaker net is just so 80's!
     
  11. ChuckA

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    Then put a Sling box on each one and watch from your laptop or cell phone no matter where you are! (That can get a broadband connection, that is.)
     
  12. tomkind80

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    Thanks ChuckA. Ill try it soon and report what I find. Thanks again
     
  13. TSR

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    You can sling them all, or if you want to just wait for the 922 which has the Slingbox technology built-in...
     
  14. Mike Greer

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    Slinging content is great when you're on the road but it really isn't the solution for HD content from one room to another!
     
  15. BattleZone

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    Keep in mind that there has to be a limit somewhere of what the boxes can do. Currently, the receivers can potentially be recording 5 HD streams (2 sat + 2 OTA + 1 Internet download), plus playing back 2. That's got to be maxing out hard drive throughput, or pretty close. If you started trying to add networked playback to all that, I think you'd likely be exceeding the limits of that hard drive throughput. In designing a receiver, you must always test for the worst case scenario, which is currently 7 streams in and out of the drive. That's already a lot to ask.
     
  16. roller11

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    I'm in the Mountain time zone so I really, really need at least two OTA tuners to negate the 'overlap' problem. So to be able to record 4 progs at once is huge ..... (2x OTA, 2x sat). Has anyone tested this? Does it work?
     
  17. BobaBird

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    Yes, people have reported success using the 722k to record SATx2 and OTAx2 at the same time. See posts 26-28.
     
  18. roller11

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    If you do the math, seven streams would not be close to using all the bandwidth of a modern HD. Theoretically, 20 steams would be possible given 100% effeciency.

    Please explain 'internet download'. I've never heqard of this.
     
  19. roller11

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    It kills me that Dish puts resources into an utterly worthless feature like
    'dual TV', yet a really great feature like networking gets no traction at all.
    Dual TV , with it's TV2 low definition output, is the ugliest, lowest resolution, worst PQ that is technically possible. As such,
    it is so hideous nobody could stand to watch it.
    But networking, that would be a dream come true. I have 622s in
    multiple rooms, so I am always juggling tuners and box capacity.
    It would be great to record a prog in the den which has the lesser TV, and watch it in the main viewing room with 8 channel surround sound and a 67" screen. Or do the opposite because my wife is entertaining her friends in the room where I have recorded '24', so I want to watch it in the den. Having the convenience of choosing which room to watch a playback with no regard to which box has the recording would be huge.
    I currently have a seperate home theater computer servicing each of the TVs
    in my house, they are connected together with 1 Giga bit network, so I can watch any Blu ray rip on any computer in any location. Can't tell you how nice it is having that kind of flexibility.
     
  20. lujan

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    I think the poster is referring to "Dish Online".
     

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