8 way splitter, how to install in a structured wiring panel

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  1. trh

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    Got it. Now I also see his two photos. Not sure I've seen that here before.
     
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  2. DirectMan

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    The installer put the 8 way splitter in the cabinet but I mounted the loose splitter to the wall of the cabinet. I guess I could use a 4 way but that would limit me if I wanted to add another receiver. The cable wiring is very tight however and I don't think it would be easy to bend the input cable to another 90 degree turn.
     
  3. KOTULCN

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    Do those of you with a Genie 2 have it were all of your connection are? I’m wondering if I could move it to another location and connect it to coax outlet there.
     
  4. WestDC

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    The Genie 2 can go anywhere as it does not have have a direct out put to a TV - If your Clients (mini's) are all wired (rg6) and not wireless the location of the G2 will not be effected.
     
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  5. KOTULCN

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    I tried moving the Genie 2 to multiple different locations around the house where I currently have minis connected via coax...not one time was I able to get it to connect, just showed a top solid yellow light. After getting frustrated I started googling. From what I read the Genie 2 requires to be be connected to the ref coax connection on the 8 way splitter, something about power for the LNB. Since my splitter is in the network panel which is in the closet I am trying to relocate the Genie 2 from I do not see a way to get around this. Am I missing something?
     
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    There is one input to your splitter that is "power passing". Power from that input is sent to the output (connected to your dish). That is the input connected to your Genie 2. If you move the Genie 2 to another location you need to move the cable that goes to the Genie 2 to the "power passing" input. Not hard to do if you know which cable goes where and can switch inputs on the splitter.
     
  7. P Smith

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    :tonguewink:
     
  8. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Photos in the first post (or at least attempted to be included - they were https linked from a hosting site).
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  9. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I don't see any structured wiring panel there:handpointup:
     
  10. James Long

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    The cables on the left are the cat5e (terminated with RJ45 connectors). The network switch is in the lower left. The cables on the right are the coax. Perhaps not as "structured" as you or I would build, but it is what it is.
     
  11. KOTULCN

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    We just purchased the house and everything was kind a mess. I’m trying to straighten everything and do a clean install. The panel is actually a Listman Homerun, this company was bought out by Leviton. Since all of the cat5e drops coming into the panel are terminated with RJ45 I am not sure if I want to remove them and install them in a push down patch panel, then hop to a switch connected to Eero node connected to Google Fiber Network Box. This panel is metal so having an Eero node in there will likely be worthless if I put the cover on. I’m just think that if I went the new panel patch it would be a huge PITA.
     
  12. HoTat2

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    Yep ...

    That's why it's a real time-saver to spend some time tracing out and documenting where each coax on a root SWiM splitter like that is going to which outlet and/or secondary splitter in the home.

    Particularly with installations like this where you may want to relocate the Genie server, but its internal PI is being used to power the LNBF.

    Had a situation here a couple of years ago where one night the wiring to a 120v receptical the PI was plugged into in the basement failed causing everyone in the home to lose satellite service.

    Quickly had to switch the cable feeding the HR54 Genie over to the power-passing port of the root splitter to let its internal PI temporarily power the SWiM LNBF until I could fix the basement power outlet several days later.

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  13. P Smith

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    I would use both - external PI and DVR's internal source of powering LNBF simultaneously to avoid such outages.
     
  14. P Smith

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    perhaps someone just milked money after named it "structured" :mad:
    just all the hanging wires and missing labels would chalk out the trusty word "structured" from the installation :(
     
  15. HoTat2

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    When I was upgraded to a 2 gen. DSWIM LNBF (a SL-5RB type). The tech. simply swapped out my old analog SWiM-16 multiswitch and placed a 1x8 SWiM splitter at that location in the basement. Then just re-used the same 29v (gray) PI for the former SWiM-16 to power the new LNBF.

    So how would combining a 29v PI in parallel with the 21v output of the Genie's internal PI workout together? Or do you mean ditch the 29v PI for a 21v (black) PI?

    And how do I combine the two on the one power-passing port of the SWiM splitter?

    Use a reverse connected all-ports power-passing (with diode steering) 1x2 splitter normally used to split the 250-2150 MHz tp. signals for paralleling multiswitches or some other?

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  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I would go with that type.
     
  17. P Smith

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    only if you will add diodes as preventing back feed to 21V PI from 29V PI (Schottky type will be good)
     
  18. TheRatPatrol

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    Isn’t there a device that you can hook up to each end of the coax that lights up letting you know which coax is which?
     
  19. KOTULCN

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    Since the panel was a mess when we bought the house I have set to work fixing it. I toned out all of the cat5e lan drops in the house and labeled them (after I made sure they were all wired correctly). The DirecTV tech gave me the minis to place where I wanted and when I told them I had green lights he connected everything to the splitter. I just need to figure out a clean way to mount the blasted splitter so I can route the wiring/equipment in the panel in a way that will not send my OCD into overdrive.
     
  20. DirectMan

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    You seem to have all the connectors on the splitter occupied by a cable. If any cable is not terminated with a D* box I would disconnect the cable and substitute a cap on the splitter.
     

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