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811 with tivo or 721?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by ibooksrule, Jun 25, 2004.

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  1. ibooksrule

    ibooksrule Godfather

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    i called dish today because of a problem with my 522 and the guy heard me say i had voom and offered me a 811 for $5 a month if i took the HD pack. MY question is i have the toshiba digital media center tivo dvd combo unit hooked up to my dish 522 now but i hear the 811 is not a IR based remote so would i not be able to use it as the tivo would not switch the channels or is there another way? also does anyone have any screen shots of an 811? right now i have tried to use the tivo that has 480p output with my dish and it has good PQ but when i use it with voom the PQ is good on SD channels but on HD it tries to letterbox everything as though im on a 4:3 tv and i dont know why and since it only outputs at 480P i lose the HD PQ since i cant go 720P or 1080i so my question is i know i couldnt record any HD stuff because it wouldnt look right but could i record SD and it would look ok? or should i maybe drop the 811 and go with a 721?
     
  2. Bobby94928

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    The 811 remote is UHF based and has no IR. However, the 811 itself is both UHF and IR. It works with any IR Universal Remote and will work with those little goodies that you place in front of the receiver.
     
  3. garypen

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    Those little IR emitters or commonly referred to as "IR Bugs" in the multimedia installation biz.

    I'm just sayin'.
     
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    Thank you Gary. I couldn't for the life of me remember their name.
     
  5. garypen

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    That happens to me with old girlfriends.
     
  6. Cholly

    Cholly Old Guys Rule! DBSTalk Club

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    The TiVo folks call 'em IR blasters.
    Remote code for the 811 when setting up on TiVo Series 2 is 1011 Medium.
    I don't know about the code for the Toshiba.
     
  7. garypen

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    Dish calls their built-in IR emitters "IR Blasters" as well. I'm just tellin' ya what the pros call 'em. The technical name, as if you haven't figured out yet, is "IR Emitter". ;)
     
  8. ibooksrule

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    so do you think the 721 is a better deal or the 811 i mean which is a better receiver? i know 721 is not HD
     
  9. Bobby94928

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    It's apples and oranges. The 721 is a SD DVR and the the 811 is an HD single non recording receiver. What is it that you really want?
     
  10. ibooksrule

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    really a HD dvr id love the direct tivo HD but i dont like directv and tivo doesnt make a stand alone HD unit. I guess id like 721 for the dual tunar and the no dvr fees but still having the dvr but then i would like to have the hd programing on Dish as well so i guess its an win win lose lose thing.
     
  11. Cholly

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    Ummm...I knew that :D
    Seriously: If you go with E* and want HD PVR, your only choice is the 921, warts and all. If you want the HD pack and a PVR, but don't really need to record HD, then 811/510 or 811/721 makes better sense. Gary's selection of 811 (but without the HD pack) and the 721 makes sense for him because he has abundant HD locals. The dual tuner and no PVR fees is icing on the cake.
     
  12. SRW1000

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    If you're going to be using the 811 to feed your Tivo via s-video, your likely to be disappointed because of the 811's dark s-video output. Also, the s-video outputs of the 811 will display a letterboxed and pillarboxed picture for 4 x 3 material broadcat on HD stations.

    These problems are expected to be corrected with a software update due in Jan. 2004. Err, March 2004. Uh, make that April or no, end of June 2004 - really, they mean it this time.

    OK, you get the idea. I've had my 811 since Dec. to use in conjunction with my DVD/DVR, and it's sitting unused because of these issues. If I knew then what I know now, I would have picked the 721 over the 811 (especially at the new $249 price). I've since purchased a stand alone HDTV tuner to use while waiting for the 811 to be fixed.If your Tivo has component video inputs, you can ignore this.

    Scott
     
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