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Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by kenreau, Sep 14, 2005.
So if you could get in on a lease deal even if you are current subscriber you would recommend going that route.
I'd like to see a poll on that one. It might surprise a lot of people.
I agree. The vast majority of what my wife records is from the satellite.
The Voom boxes are being used for this as well...dirt cheap on ebay.
I would think the comparison isn't so much how much % of HD OTA are you recording... but how much of your HD are you recording OTA.
I record lots of stuff on my 501 in SD, and watch HD OTA in the main room on my 6000u. I'd do much the same if I had a 942 and could record HD because there haven't been a lot of HD conflicts where I wanted to watch two programs at the same time.
Now, if I had two HD sets and 2 HD recorders... then I might be recording some HD while I watch other HD.. and in that case I think I would be recording more OTA HD than the other, if for no other reason that (not counting Voom) there are more local OTA HD channels for me than there are HD channels currently on Dish.
If I count Voom, there's more on satellite.. but there's really only a couple of Voom channels that have movies I might want to record at times when I can't just watch them live.
That's the way I took it but was just having trouble believing that 95% of what people record is "Network HD OTA".
I record some OTA but mostly off sat. I can't imagine having to set up manual timers for "95%" of what I record.
To add another data point, I record about 50% OTA. If I didn't get CBS-HD on satellite, it would probably be more like 75% OTA. These are figures during the network "season". When the networks are in re-run, my viewing shifts more towards the satellite channels.
Bottom line is that while HBO-HD, Showtime-HD, HDNet, Discovery HD, etc. are debutting a handful of new shows each month, the networks are delivering a steady diet of new hi-def prime-time episodic TV every night.
Thankfully the guide works fine on the vast majority of my OTA stations, so I very rarely have to set up a manual timer.
Most of what I record is OTA HD. 3 of the 4 shows I record weekly are OTA HD. My wife records 2 soaps a day off the digital OTAs, but they are not HD.
I don't have HBO or SHO... but I have all the other Dish HD. When I watch sports on ESPN or TNTHD I am watching live rather than recording... if there is a conflict I'll record a network show while I watch on ESPN/TNT live. With the way a lot of the other channels repeat their programming, any time I think of needing to record something I just look ahead and see it comes on again later...
So while I watch a lot of the satellite HD, I have less need to record it... whereas primetime OTA HD isn't repeated as much, so if I had a DVR I would record more of that since I'd have to wait a long time for a repeat. That would be my motivation to record more OTA I think.
On the subject of leasing a 942 as as current subscriber...
Two phone calls to attempt this have failed for me. The last time the 2nd-level support dude was trying to be accomodating, but said he couldn't get it approved, and offered me a free upgrade to an 811.
When I pushed the issue of needing a DVR, and finally told him I'd be $$$ ahead by quitting and going to DirectTV,he suggested I instead un sub, and have my wife sub and get the new lease offer.
So, that's my current plan... anybody see any potential issues with this?
Nope . It sounds like he gave you a way to get what you want and get it at a new customer price. I would take it.
Well, as it happens I decided to email 'firstname.lastname@example.org' with a firm but polite explanation of why I would have to drop Dish as a current sub as a result of their current policies, along with an urge for them to please reconsider their action with regard to promoting customer retention.
I got a response from a "CEO Assistant" who authorized me to get a 942 with the "New Sub" lease pricing, along with 6 months of HD programming for free.
So, I have a 12/7 install date.
Good for you. Although $250 is a lot of money just to have the privledge to rent a box, ait sure beats buying one and having it crap out 368 days later.
Well, Dish wants $800 for these babies, and I've not had much luck finding them on the internet for less than $600 + shipping.
So, for the money I'll be saving up front, I can lease the thing for 5+ years. Given equipment longevity, I'll take that.
My local OTA's are mapped. I don't have to set up manual timers.
Ditto. And I'd say that 70 - 80% of what I record is OTA-HD/Digita with the rest mostly SAT HD channels like HBO-HD and Discovery. I try and watch as little SD as possible these days, there are just a few shows that I can't get in HD that I'll record. I find I rarely even scan the guide anymore except on HD channels.
After a few failed phone calls, I tried this same email route and got a phone call from Dish's "executive office" -- they offered pretty much the same deal, with the only difference being 12 months of HD programming half off rather than 6 months free (obviously comes out to the same total savings).
They are coming to install on 12/17. Is there anything I should have on hand when they come? Doesn't the 942 come with one HDMI cable? Also, I currently have two single tuner SD DVRs ... one in the living room, one in the bedroom with the signal being fed via wall coax cable in each room. I'm planning on turning them both in (they're leased) for the 942. I was told over the phone that I would be given a "full install" which would include setting up both rooms. Is this true? Will they completely set up both rooms (still through the coax -- a "clean" install without wires going across the floor from room to room) without any extra charges or anything? Will they provide whatever it is that is required to "split" the signal to both rooms/TVs?
Thanks in advance for help on my simple questions.
p.s. I have a dish 1000.
Well, I talked Dish into supplying me a DPP44 a part of the install so I can use a single coax cable, and those switches were backordered, so my install hasn't happened yet.
I did get the 942 delivered, however, and can confirm it comes with a HDMI cable.