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Abused Iraqi prisoner photos spark world outrage

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  1. May 12, 2004 #81 of 192
    Richard King

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    There has been no outraged expressed by any Muslim country that I have heard, certainly nothing like the outrage expressed over the mistreatment of the prisoners. I'm not holding my breath.
     
  2. May 12, 2004 #82 of 192
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    I also find it interesting that the NYT previously had the abuse pix plastered all over the front page, but the picture of the fellow who was beheaded was convenienty absent today. In fact, looking at their website today I see the following headlines with stories important enough to make the top of the front page:
    U.S. Military Strikes Mosque Held by Iraqi Cleric's Militia

    Two More Americans Charged in Abuse of Iraqi Prisoners


    Obviously, the decapitation of an American contractor isn't very important to some since you have to scroll to the bottom of the page to even see it mentioned.
     
  3. May 12, 2004 #83 of 192
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    Gee, that story is prominently placed on the so-called "liberal" CBS News website.

    Darnit why aren't all the news outlets the same? It's so confusing to people like Richard that everyone doesn't think alike. :lol:


     
  4. May 12, 2004 #84 of 192
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    What makes you think there isn't world outrage? Someone from another country didn't show up at your door and exress it?
     
  5. May 12, 2004 #85 of 192
    Richard King

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    Imagine that.
     
  6. May 12, 2004 #86 of 192
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    I can imagine that you would prefer to believe that it is just a case of a few out of control wackos, but I think it is to soon to assume that it was just wackos OR a military/intelligence program.
     
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    HappyGoLucky

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    Your personal insult aside, I read your message quite clearly and stand behind my response. If you did not mean what you wrote, perhaps you should invest time in some constructive writing classes.
     
  8. May 12, 2004 #88 of 192
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    No it is the fact that this has been celebrated in the islamic world. It is the fact that these images are being brodcast and printed by arab media with support for these terrorists. So what is your spin what are you gonna say to justify this murder? C'mon I know you want to blame this on GW and say how it is his fault and the poor terrorist had to react in the only way they know how lets forgive and forget and move on. You people are calling those photos of Iraqi prisoner abuse and torture and are all outraged over what they went through poor prisoners they have been humilated. It is just fodder for the lib agenda and now this has happened. I hope milatary action is swift and brutal in responce to this actual case of abuse and torture.
     
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    Maybe if you looked at something besides Foxnews you'd get a better view. But then, the rest of the world doesn't pander to your crayon ideology so you may find their reporting "offensive".
     
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    What's your take Freak? Your tax dollars being put to good use? Is this what the US government is sinking into debt for?


    RE: "fodder for the lib agenda" Well Doggonit, they make it so darned easy. :lol: You people were all over the Lewinsky scandal, and well no one was being tortured then....


    I'm waiting for them to start confiscating cameras of military personnel and contractors.
     
  11. May 12, 2004 #91 of 192
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    So now what happens in the Islamic World is "the Whole World?" First the statement is that there has been no "world outcry" but now its the fact that the Islamic world has not reacted as you want them to.
     
  12. May 12, 2004 #92 of 192
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    That would be a first under any administration in DC
     
  13. May 12, 2004 #93 of 192
    HappyGoLucky

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    The NY Times website headlines are regularly updated and changed as new stories emerge. They typically will have a couple of the most recent reports of international or national news along with economic and other reports. Generally, they will have only 4 or 5 headlines that can change from hour to hour as new reports come in. Older stories are contained in their respective categories lower on the page. There is no certain heirarchy as to which story is more or less important. Your accusation that the Times doesn't consider the Berg story important is, as are many of your accusations, baseless and, frankly, bordering on either ignorance or purposely misleading assumptions.
     
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    So? There has been some very notable celebrations of the prisoner abuse pictures by some Americans, many printed in newspapers or spoken on conservative talk radio. You don't think that conveys the same message to the Arab world you now condemn ALL of them for doing?
     
  15. May 12, 2004 #95 of 192
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    Oh please those pictures of the poor abused prisoners pale in comparison. And last I checked I have not heard Boorts Hannity or Rush celebrate the prisoner abuses. A mountain out of a molehill is what those pictures are. Any sympathy gained for the LIB/musilm agenda was lost the moment Mr. Berg was killed.
     
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    Point me to a Muslim site expressing outrage.
     
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    Again you write nonsense. On his May 6 broadcast, Limbaugh spoke, in reference to the pictures of prisoner abuse, "Maybe the people who ordered this are pretty smart. Maybe the people who executed this pulled off a brilliant maneuver." He then compared the abuse to entertainment, "here we have these pictures of homoeroticism that look like standard good old American pornography, the Britney Spears or Madonna concerts or whatever". On his May 10 broadcast, he gave the pictures no more weight than a fraternity hazing, "I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You [ever] heard of need to blow some steam off?"

    Now, if another country were to do the same thing to our soldiers that were captured, would you still consider it no big deal?
     
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    Point me to a Muslim site expressing outrage.

    A bit hard to find since I'm guessing many of us don't read arabic, and opinion pages aren't usually translated. Never the less I did find a few. The widest distributed is from Al Jazeera which has a story about Arab reactions to the killing. They show a balanced view, and note that there are Arabs who think its horrible:
     
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    See, even other terrorists think it was an outrage. ;)

    Imagine that.

    Actually it makes perfect sense. From what I've read, the interogators took some of demeaning pictures and threatened to show them to the subject's family. I can easily see this being done under order. Even under duress, nobody would want their family to see some of the things the guards forced you to do.

    But from the posed look, I think some of these pictures were also done by saddistic guards wanting a keepsake.
     
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