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Acoustic Research XSight: Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Equipment' started by Stuart Sweet, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. Feb 5, 2010 #281 of 305
    anubys

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    not to make your decision harder but if you can keep it to 6 devices, consider the Harmony 700 :)

    also, check out the MRV option (came out in beta) see this thread

    so the need for multiple DVRs in the same room might not be as urgent, especially after you upgrade what you have with eSATA to 1 TB HDDs (or bigger!)...
     
  2. Feb 5, 2010 #282 of 305
    anubys

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    oops...I see you mentioned cable box...so the DirecTV solutions I offered would not mean anything to you!
     
  3. Feb 5, 2010 #283 of 305
    davephan

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    Thanks for your response!

    My SageTV computer based DVR system has four 1.5 TB Sata2 drives and six 2.0 TB Sata2 drives, plus an older 750 Gig IDE drive. The Sata2 drives are all setup in RAID 1 pairs, so I have 9 TB of disk space. Most of the disk space is protected from disk failure, which has happened. I also copy my more important files to separate 1 TB USB hard drives for more redundancy.

    Each hour of SD consumes about 2 gigs, each hour of HD consumes about 6 TB. Both of these are set for the highest recording quality. Compressed video consumes about 1 TB per hour. My diskspace is about 90% full now, and I have about 5,700 hours of recordings. My system could be scaled up much larger, both in simultaneous recording and disk space. The system also automatically skips commercials without manually fast forwarding through commercials. The system also learns what type of programs you like and don't like, and records those programs without scheduling them manually. I can watch any of the recording on 4 TVs at the same time. The system can stream into far more TVs at once by scaling up further. When you scale up a computer based system too large, you'll never be able to watch much of what is recorded, since there just isn't enough time in the day to watch enough TV to make a dent in the number of recordings.

    Now, the upside to setting up the computer based system from the remote control standpoint is you only have one media extender to control instead of many DVRs.

    Dave
     
  4. TheRatPatrol

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    Heres a review of the XSight remote.

    Those of you still using this remote, how are you liking it?
     
  5. Sep 1, 2010 #285 of 305
    inkahauts

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    SO has anyone figured out how to get this remote to control multiple directv receivers via rf?
     
  6. Sep 1, 2010 #286 of 305
    TheRatPatrol

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    I don't think it can, it would need a firmware/software update in order to do so.
     
  7. Sep 5, 2010 #287 of 305
    inkahauts

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    Yeah, it doesn't seem to be able to, there for it sucks.. it'll be going back shortly... Can;t believe they built it that way
     
  8. Sep 7, 2010 #288 of 305
    mdavej

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    It still does one more via RF than any other universal remote. So every other remote on the planet must REALLY suck.
     
  9. Sep 7, 2010 #289 of 305
    Mike Bertelson

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    Well to be fair, if I wanted I could control every component in my house, including all four of my DirecTV receivers, via RF with my universal. It requires an RF base but it will do it. And no, my universial does not suck. :D

    However, don't you think it a bit odd that it would provide native RF support DirecTV receivers...but only one. It really doesn't make any sense to me. That is unless you actually only have one receiver but with whole home on the horizon that's not really practical. :shrug:

    Mike
     
  10. Sep 7, 2010 #290 of 305
    mdavej

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    The xsight has a lot of unnecessary limitations I don't understand. If I had to guess, I think the problem is the experts at UEI make a great piece of hardware then throw it over the fence to some contract developer who knows nothing about remotes. The same thing happens at logitech - great hardware crippled by terrible software. I wish both companies would at least ask potential developers if they know what a universal remote does before they hire them.

    So, I have major problems with xsight too. But show me another universal that controls multiple directv boxes via RF before simply declaring it sucks. This thread is full of posts relentlessly condemning the xsight because it can't control 20 DVR's at once, but I have yet to see another remote that can. Sure xsight has some problems, but calling the whole remote worthless for this one oversight is a little unfair (especially if you knew this before hand).

    If you want to control 20 DVR's (18 actually) with this remote, get an RF base and it will do it just fine. I can control every component in my house via RF with my $5 remote which happens to be way more capable than a $250 xsight. But I can't do it without an RF base. So xsight deserves a lot of credit for that IMO.
     
  11. Sep 7, 2010 #291 of 305
    Mike Bertelson

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    No doubt they deserve kudos for including native RF support for DirecTV. It’s a great first step. :)

    It’s pretty danged phenomenal that a universal remote supports DirecTV RF. I hope it’s a view of things to come. IMHO, without native support for multiple receivers, the XSight is just another programmable universal remote. :)

    Heck, DirecTV’s own remote will do more than one receiver in RF. The current model has two-way communication with the 24 series receivers making TV setup a breeze. In that regard the RC65RX is a more capable remote than the XSight Touch.

    What really baffles me about this is that UEI makes DirecTV’s remotes so supporting native RF should be a piece of cake...I guess not. :grin:

    Mike
     
  12. Sep 7, 2010 #292 of 305
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    I think future remotes either need to be all RF or Bluetooth. Then all you have to do is sync whatever remote you have with whatever devices you have. Would make things so much easier.
     
  13. Sep 8, 2010 #293 of 305
    Mike Bertelson

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    RF, bluetooth, Wi-Fi I don't know which it will be but I can envision a remote that will connect to our devices and download the code set. No more programming, no more having to teach the commands, just have it search for devices and get the codes.

    I guess bluetooth and Wi-Fi are both technically RF. :scratchin

    !rolling

    Mike
     
  14. dooski3

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    Hi im trying to get my xsight remote to work a kenwood vr-4700 with no luck. The remote had the model in the setup but it doesn't work. I think it had something to do with the ir/rf issue, but im not well educated about remotes. Any and all help would be very much appreciated thanks.
     
  15. TheRatPatrol

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    I know many of you are Harmony fans (I have an older one) but I saw the Xsights on clearance at Best Buy for $80.00, unfortunately they didn't have any left otherwise I would have gotten one. Now that they've cleared them out, do you guys think they might be coming out with a newer model? Why else would they be clearing them out?

    I wish Harmony would come out with one that could control the HR's in RF.
     
  16. Apr 3, 2012 #296 of 305
    David Ortiz

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    Holy thread bump, Batman!

    I found a very slightly used XSight Touch on eBay and won it for $34. I've had it about a week now and continue to tweak things to get everything just right.

    I discovered for myself what's already been discussed: the remote can control only one DIRECTV box via native RF.

    I was able to add a second DIRECTV box by adding it as a generic PVR and learning the codes from the remote. So I have one DIRECTV box controlled using native RF and a second DIRECTV box controlled using IR.

    I am waiting for the RF extender, which should be here Thursday. :)

    David
     
  17. Apr 3, 2012 #297 of 305
    mdavej

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    Welcome to the club. Actually Xsight has codes for address 2 built-in, so no learning required. Address one is C1377 (or is it S?) and address 2 is 1378. There may even be a 1379 code for the 3rd, but I haven't tried it.

    My closed caption macro was a breeze on Xsight compared to harmony.

    Much of the initial hatred of the Xsight has gone way down since the prices have dropped dramatically. I took my harmonys out of service over a year ago and haven't missed them a bit. I love the speed, the battery life, programmability, multiple favorites lists, etc.

    One more thing. If you used squareeyes favorite channel icons on your harmony, they work fine on Xsight too.

    Enjoy

    P.S. Remember those long press commands for DirecTV (slomo, skip to tick, etc.) we collaborated on years ago? Well, after years of trying, I finally got them added to the public harmony database, only 2 years after I cancelled DirecTV and a year after I cancelled harmony. How's that for customer service?
     
  18. Apr 3, 2012 #298 of 305
    David Ortiz

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    If I were trying to control both boxes with IR, the codes are the right ones. However, when the XSight Touch controls a DIRECTV receiver via native RF, any additional DIRECTV receivers must be added as generic IR devices with learned codes. This isn't a big deal, as the remote makes it very easy to learn multiple keys. So, I suppose you could use this remote to control 9 DIRECTV receivers. (Codes 1-8 and RF.)

    I'm looking forward to setting up the extender and getting the long press codes added.
     
  19. Apr 3, 2012 #299 of 305
    dettxw

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    Since the HR34 has been working better I retired an HR22-100 and HR20-700 that were in the same location. I'll have to dust off the AR remote and start using it again with the single DVR in the living room. Might as well use it, sure won't get for it what I paid. :lol:
     
  20. mdavej

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    I just picked an Xsight Plus (ARRX12G) for around $20. It's a great little 12 device remote that can really give a harmony 650 a run for its money. While it lacks the Touch's (18G) RF capability, it has the same programming and macro/activity capabilities. It has more than double the devices of a similar harmony for a fraction of the price. It also has a physical List button that harmony lacks, making it more DVR friendly. And unlike harmony, I can manage all my Xsights with a single login. Most everything harmony can't do (no macros, multiple logins, low device count, no activity editing, etc.), Xsight can do. The only thing missing is state tracking. But you only need that if your devices lack discretes. DirecTV and Dish have discretes.
     

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