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Activity on EchoStar 9 at 121

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by JohnH, Oct 3, 2003.

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  1. Darkman

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    I am starting to think those channels will stay there permanently... (even though they are mirrored)
    To accomodate Subscribers with SuperDish, who might want to Subscirbe to ethnic channels... then they can have one Dish solution (some of them anyhow) - 110, 119 and 121 :)
     
  2. Jacob S

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    When does Dish plan on having channels available to the public at 121?
     
  3. TNGTony

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    That would be my guess. I don't know for sure. Just a guess.

    See ya
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  4. DISHjanitor

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    what is this sat's coverage? are hawaii, alaska, puerto rico, for example, included?
     
  5. Darkman

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    Interesting to observe that even though those channels are the mirrors of current channels (for now), however they do not have same SID as those simular ethnic channels at 61.5 and 148... Instead they have completly different SID (upper 600s and 700s).

    Just wondering - any thoughts on why not just have same SIDs for ethnic channels at 121 that already exist at 61.5 and 148?
    Maybe same SID at 3 satellites are kinda too many? :)
     
  6. DDRio

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    DishJanitor:

    The C-Band portion of Telstar 13 has coverage for Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Of course, based on history we are not impotant to Dish so I wouldn't expect much.
     
  7. JohnH

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    I suspect they want to avoid Duplicate SIDs for subs which have locals on side slots and the new international slot.

    BTW: They are doing the same thing with HD channels on 105(different SIDs).
     
  8. Darkman

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    Oh ya!
    That's it ... Makes sense..

    Any educated guess on what those 2 might be:
    728 6434 6435 AN7 Satellite
    and:
    767 4097

    I can make an educated guess - that RTVi will probably be at 745, cuz of:
    746 4642 4643 RTVI+
    747 5922 5923 HTBA
    748 6178 6179 CH1RU
    ;)
     
  9. Darkman

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    John - How many Tps are alive in total?

    and are there any channels or SIDs at 12016V 20000?
     
  10. JohnH

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    767 is an audio channel. Don't know about the other one.

    At last check there were about 5 Tps active, but only 3 had channels.

    Tp 21:

    740 , 4642 , 4643
    741 , 4130 , 4131
    745 , 4386 , 4387
    761 , 4898 , 4899
    766 , 4097
     
  11. JohnH

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    Maybe Antenna Satellite?
     
  12. Darkman

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    That's right - there are about 5 or 6 or so tps...
    Here is updated info from original Poster:

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    tpn16: 11943 H 20000 3/4

    SID VPID APID
    726 4898 4899 Mega Cosmos
    727 5154 5155 ERT
    728 6434 6435 Antenna Satellite
    746 4642 4643 RTVI+
    747 5922 5923 HTBA
    748 6178 6179 CH1RU

    tpn20: 12001 H 20000 3/4

    680 5922 5923 PHNIX
    681 6434 6435 CCTV4
    758 5154 5155 ART Global America
    759 5410 5411 ART Movies
    760 5666 5667 LBC America
    767 4097 ART Music Radio (?)
    794 4386 4387 Zee Cinema
    797 4642 4643 Z Cinema
    798 4898 4899 B4U

    tpn21: 12016 V 20000 5/6

    740 4642 4643 Polsat 2 International
    741 4130 4131 TVN 24
    745 4386 4387 RTV International USA
    761 4898 4899 Al-Jazeera Satellite Channel
    766 4097 Al Zikr (?)
    36855 DNL7
    36856 DNL5
    36857 DNL6
    36858 DNL4
    36859 DNL3
    36860 SSD
    36861 EPG
    36863 DNL

    Other 3 don't have video/audio mux - only SDT: tpn24, tpn26, tpn28 ...
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    very strange to see Russian RTVi on a different Tp from other Russians ( at 61.5 and 148 those all are on same TP )

    maybe it is only for now, and then they ll change this...at a future date...
    but my guess was correct however on SID 745 for it :)
     
  13. chelsea

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    I don't think anything been confirmed for 157. What is speculated for this
    position?
     
  14. Darkman

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    Hopefully John is keeping "one eye 1/2 open on it" on seldom occasion :) ;) :)

    (personally i think somehow, that nothing exciting will appear at 157... just a feeling i have)
     
  15. Darkman

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    besides 157 hasn't even been added to the Dishnet Receivers' Install menu (with the latest S/W upgrade), where 105 and 121 are now among others :)
     
  16. JohnH

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    The FEC info for 121 is incorrect.

    Correct FEC info:

    Tp 16 1/2
    Tp 20 3/4
    Tp 21 3/4

    157 is a non-issue here unless it is added to DISH Network. It is below the horizon.
     
  17. James Long

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    There is promise there, but when and what is a total mystery.

    Once 148º is cleared of Internationals and HDTV I could see a 148º-157º paired service, perhaps focused on Hawaii and Alaska - but obviously not with the current satellites. 157º is only three transponders., not worth pointing a dish at unless it is a 500 seeing both 148º-157º - and 148º doesn't reach Hawaii (IIRC).

    JL
     
  18. Mike Richardson

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    Wh is 157º only 3 transponders? Is that all they have license for? Or is that all the bird there can support? Is there anyone else at 157º?
     
  19. James Long

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    The FCC only gave E* 3 transponders there. (In part to satisfy an allotment of 11 transponders on western satellites. E* got 8 transponders on 148º that they were already using under STA and the three extras on 157º.)

    The bird is the garbage E*4 ... personally I wonder if they will ever serve a signal to a customer from that bird at 157º. The remaining space at 157º is vacant, awaiting auction (when the FCC ever follows through).

    Perhaps if E* gets more transponders at 157º they will do something valuable there.

    JL
     
  20. Darkman

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    That is what we have to-date (from TNGTony's channel list... a copy/paste kinda) ... Anyone is able to fill in some blanks:

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    ??? ??? 679 5 121° E*9
    Phoenix TV (Chinese-Mandarin) PHNIX 680 20 121° E*9
    Central China TV (China - State Run) CCTV4 681 20 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 702 15 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 703 15 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 704 15 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 705 5 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 712 5 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 722 5 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 723 5 121° E*9
    MEGAcosmos MEGA 726 16 121° E*9
    Ellinki Radiophonia Tileorassi ERT 727 16 121° E*9
    Antenna Satellite (Greece) ANTEN 728 16 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 736 5 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 739 6 121° E*9
    PolSat 2 PLSAT 740 21 121° E*9
    TVN 24 TVN24 741 21 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 742 6 121° E*9
    Russian TV International RTVI 745 21 121° E*9
    Russian TV International Plus RTVI+ 746 16 121° E*9
    HTB America (NTV America) HTBA 747 16 121° E*9
    Channel One Russia CH1RU 748 16 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 751 6 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 752 6 121° E*9
    Art America ART 758 20 121° E*9
    Art Movies ARTMV 759 20 121° E*9
    LBC America LBC 760 20 121° E*9
    Al Jazeera Satellite Channel ALJAZ 761 21 121° E*9
    Al Zikr (Qatar) ZIKR 766 21 121° E*9
    Art Music Radio ARTMU 767 20 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 793 15 121° E*9
    Zee TV ZEETV 794 20 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 795 15 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 796 15 121° E*9
    Zee Cinema ZCINE 797 20 121° E*9
    Bollywood 4U B4U 798 20 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 816 6 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 820 15 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 821 15 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 822 6 121° E*9
    ??? ??? 824 6 121° E*9
     
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