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Adding an External Hard Drive to Directv Receiver HR54-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Phred Phlintstone, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. Jan 3, 2018 #1 of 154
    Phred Phlintstone

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    I have maxed out the internal hard drive. Tech Support says if I connect an external hard drive to my HR54-700, the HR54-700 will FORMAT THE INTERNAL HARD DRIVE and all I have recorded will be lost. Is there some way to avoid this lunacy and connect an external hard drive WITHOUT losing everything on my internal drive?
     
  2. Jan 3, 2018 #2 of 154
    WestDC

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    Welcome to the Site!

    If you connect an external HD drive to your unit it will NOT format the internal drive! so you will not lose those recording as long as you don't replace the GENIE -should you replace it all recording are lost as they stay with the unit it was recorded with.

    Get a BIG drive at least 4TB go big or go home.
     
  3. Jan 4, 2018 #3 of 154
    PokerJoker

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    Tech Support is wrong. If you connect an external drive, the HR54 will switch over and use it instead of the internal drive, which remains intact.

    What you cannot do is see the shows on both drives at the same time. To see the shows on the internal drive, you must disconnect the external drive.

    This is not a hot-swap system! The connect/disconnect process can be a little tricky and if you do it wrong it is possible to mess up the contents of a drive. To safely swap drives you should do a restart from the settings menu, then pull the power plug at the exact moment the lights go out, then do the swapping, then power it up again. Just using the power button is not good enough, since it doesn't really turn off the box.

    Also remember that the external drive has to use an eSata interface, which is hard to find since nearly all external drives are USB these days. Most of us that have done this have bought a bare drive and an eSata enclosure and put them together ourselves.

    WestDC is right - get a BIG drive or don't bother. The HR54 will handle at least an 8TB drive and probably more. It's best if you use either a NAS type drive or a surveillance-type drive, instead of a common desktop type, but they all will work.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2018 #4 of 154
    Rich

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    Can't imagine believing anything "tech support" says about the eSATA function. This is a perfect example.

    Rich
     
  5. Jan 4, 2018 #5 of 154
    P Smith

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    that support is a bunch of uneducated dudes !
     
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    jimmie57

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    And Dudetes
     
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    P Smith

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    as you said
     
  8. Mar 29, 2018 #8 of 154
    techfan

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    I made a video with all the needed info from start to finish and what happens when you add or remove the drive.
     
  9. Mar 30, 2018 #9 of 154
    P Smith

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    @techfan, sorry I can't give you thumb up - you didn't show how to copy schedulings and recordings from old HDD to new EHD
     
  10. Apr 2, 2018 #10 of 154
    four0four404

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    Sorry in advance for the noob question - I am about to request an upgrade to the HR54-700 (from a HR34), is it safe to assume that if I get a 4TB external drive at the time of install and connect it to the HR54 that would be the best course of action, to avoid having to switch back and forth once the internal drive is full?

    Thanks!
     
  11. Apr 2, 2018 #11 of 154
    carl6

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    That would be my recommendation. The external drive replaces, does not supplement, the internal drive. So if your plan is to use an external drive I would do so before I made any recordings I wanted to watch.
     
  12. Apr 3, 2018 #12 of 154
    Rich

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    Do what Carl said, don't use the internal drive except for one recording. Do you need help selecting a hard drive or external device for the hard drive?

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    Steveknj

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    From how it used to work years ago, you can't. You have to reschedule everything including any SP you set up. With that said, one improvement from how it used to work (and that was probably 3-5 years ago) is that often, when you'd initially set up your external drive, use it for awhile and then unplug it, the next time you plugged it in, it would reformat the external and you'd have to start from scratch again. That was probably on an HR21. Now it looks like you can use the drive interchangeably.

    The one weird thing with that video. Why would you buy an external drive? That just adds an extra step to the process (taking the old drive out of it's original case and putting it in a new case). The price though was really good so perhaps that's why he did it that way. Alternatively you could buy an external with a eSata port already there, so it's just plug and play at that point, but looking at the prices, it seems more expensive to do it that way (figuring that the drive is about $90 and the case $25), an external with eSata is about $150.
     
  14. Apr 3, 2018 #14 of 154
    four0four404

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    Thank you! @carl6! and @Rich - yes please :)
     
  15. Apr 4, 2018 #15 of 154
    Rich

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    I've been using external HDDs since...perhaps 2007? Never had one reformat. And I had 21s. I saw several posts about this happening, never happened to me.

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    Rich

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    I've used Blue Caviar WD HDDs in some form (they used to be Green Caviars) for many years with great success. Here's a link to a 4TB drive: https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Desktop...=1522860920&sr=8-5&keywords=wd+hard+drive+4tb
    4TB drives are a good fit in/on a Genie.

    The device I would recommend isn't made anymore but let me take a look at what's available...I think this will work: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com...ts=p_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin:2886986011

    That would be my choice but I'd buy it on Amazon because it's easy to return if it doesn't work.

    Rich
     
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    Bill Broderick

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    I technically agree with Carl, but not with Rich. I would record one program and one program only on the old hard drive. I would record something that I'd never watch in a million years (that's the technically agreeing with Carl part... "any recordings that I wanted to watch"). For the sake of this conversation, let's say something on the Scientology channel. I'd leave it there and then setup the external hard drive.

    By having one program on the internal hard drive, if your DVR reboots after some type of power disturbance, before the external hard drive is ready, you will easily be able to determine that he DVR is looking at the internal hard drive because the Scientology program will be the only item it the playlist. If you see that, you can just restart your DVR.

    If that were to happen with an empty hard drive, you wouldn't be able to instantly determine whether the DVR is looking at the internal hard drive or of there is possibly something wrong wiht the DVR or external hard drive.
     
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    Rich

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    Yup, you're right. I would do just what you suggest and after that I would not use the internal drive, I could have been clearer...I changed that post. BTW, for the first time in years I have no external HDDs. Just don't need capacity anymore.

    Rich
     
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  19. Apr 4, 2018 #19 of 154
    carl6

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    It is possible to switch back and forth, but you have to disconnect (or connect) the external drive and reboot the DVR. Inconvenient at best. Plus you put yourself in the position of possibly not knowing or recognizing what drive you are on. The suggestion to record one show you would not normally watch, and only that show, on your internal drive is an excellent suggestion.
     
  20. Apr 5, 2018 #20 of 154
    four0four404

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    Thank you!
     

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