Advanced/Boolean Searches FAQ Discussion

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  1. lparsons21

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    Thanks. I've got that printed out which is what allowed me to get started with Boolean searches.
     
  2. thebigeazy

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    Will these advanced/boolean searches work when searching Youtube?
     
  3. peds48

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    No
     
  4. MarkE

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    I'm way late to the party, but I just recently started using the Advanced Search functionality to clean up & consolidate Series Manager entries on my HR24's. This thread and the FAQ document have been a huge help, and I appreciate the digging you guys have done to figure this stuff out.

    Last Fall my wife got hooked on the USA Network series White Collar, and has been recording & viewing old episodes like crazy. They're shown on several different DirecTV channels, and I found a bunch of Series Manager entries where she'd done a Record Series for the show on different channels. I figured it would be really easy to replace all of them with a single Search entry that would record White Collar when it played on any channel, right? Wrong!!!

    The problem I ran into is that I couldn't find a way to do a search where the Title is exactly "White Collar", with no other words in the title. I didn't see a way to do it documented in the FAQ and I didn't find anything in the various Forum threads either. My issue is that there's a Boxing series called White Collar Brawlers, and searches like "AALL WHITE COLLAR TTITLE & Show Type, Series" would pick up both series. I tried various approaches like putting WHITE COLLAR in parentheses, etc. but I couldn't find a way to do a search that only picked up entries where the title was just WHITE COLLAR.

    If the way to do this is obvious to everyone but me, then I apologize for wasting your time with this post. I wound up solving the problem by doing the search as "AALL WHITE COLLAR TTITLE NNOT BRAWLERS & Show Type, Series", but I figured it's only a matter of time before another show comes along with a title that'll slip through. I've worked as a software developer for 30+ years, and it bugged the hell out of me that DirecTV would write a search capability that doesn't provide for something as basic as selecting only entries that exactly match a value!

    I just went back and messed with it again, and discovered that it's as easy as enclosing WHITE COLLAR in single quotes! A search for 'WHITE COLLAR' TTITLE does exactly what I want - duh! I hadn't tried it because I knew that the search logic ignores single quotes in searches like AALL LIVE FROM DARYL'S HOUSE TTITLE. A search of AALL LIVE FROM DARYLS HOUSE TTITLE returns the same results. I don't think this is mentioned in the FAQ document but I read posts about it and found it to be true in my past searches. It turns out that they're not ignored if a pair of them is used to enclose a value.

    Is my single quote approach the best solution to doing exact matches, or is there a better way? Should the use of single quotes be documented in the FAQ?
     
  5. Steve

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    A sequence of words not preceded by AALL or AANY will only be matched if they appear in that exact order. So white collar TTITLE NNOT brawlers should work. I no longer have a DIRECTV box to test the use of single quotes vs. NNOT, but you may be on to something.

    Matching an exact string is explained at the bottom of page 3 of the FAQs. Maybe it should be moved up higher?
     
  6. MarkE

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    A search for white collar TTITLE NNOT brawlers does meet my need - for today. The problem is that if a new program gets added to the guide next week called white collar laundry or ironing a white collar, or anything else before or after white collar, it would match and be recorded. It's an ongoing maintenance hassle to keep the search working as intended. From my testing, 'white collar' TTITLE appears to only select programs where the entire title is "White Collar". I don't need to use the NNOT clause to exclude "White Collar Brawlers". Using an analogy of searching for a file on a computer, it's the difference between searching for xyz.txt and *xyz*.txt.

    Both my DVR's are HR24's, so I can't say whether the single quote approach works on other boxes.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    Do you have a genie? They have added the ability to record a series from all channels. If not the " is a great find. Also nnot probably will survive because I doubt there's going to be to many white collar titles coming up. You might also try changing it from show type series to get down to drama or whatever category it has listed in its info.
     
  8. Steve

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    Agree. If MarkE's use of single quotes does indeed limit an exact phrase match to just the words inside the quotes, it probably should be documented. Wish I could try it, but I'm not a DIRECTV customer ATM.
     
  9. dravenstone

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    Hello old thread!

    There was a while where boolean searches were causing some issues for folks with HR-24's super slow response time and the like (back in 2013).
    I ended up having to remove my search, which was the only one I had for red sox on NESN.

    I believe the CCHANS is the only thing that has changed in the last while - so just hoping someone can confirm that this is all I need to get the sox on nesn:

    AALL red sox events CCHAN 628 & Sports, Baseball

    I think that's all there is to it, but want to make sure I'm not missing anything. To do list is empty, but I understand it sometimes take a while (up to a day) to start seeing anything in the to do.

    thanks to anyone still subbed to this thread ;)
     
  10. inkahauts

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    Yeah, change that CCHAN to CCHANS and you are all set. DO you have a genie? Because the new sports search and recordings work great.
     
  11. dravenstone

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    Ah, yeah. Like how I called that out and then didn't write it? Ugh. I actually did remember to do it when I put the search in.

    HR-24's here, no genie. I like to make sure it records the NESN feed so I need to use the CCHANS to make sure it grabs that one instead of the broadcast from whomever they are playing.

    Thanks for confirming that this is correct (absent the typo of course).
     
  12. inkahauts

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    I had a feeling that is what happened, but wanted to make sure! ;). Glad you got it all set!
     
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    SomeRandomIdiot

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    Search and AutoRecord is recording (or trying to record with non-decrypted info) Spanish Channels not subscribed to.

    Serious flaw.
     
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    inkahauts

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    Use CCHANS to get around that...

    Is it sports or something else?

    And does the channel show as greyed out or is it another messed up CIG issue?
     
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    SomeRandomIdiot

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    I should not have to use CCHANS to define Channels I do not subscribe to.

    It is greyed out......and I don't get it.

    449 - CNSONY CINE-SONY

    I do not sub to any Spanish Packages......and do not want this.

    Yet if you use an actor or actress name for AUTORECORD, if they have lip synced it into Spanish on this channel, you get it whether you subbed or not....

    Tying up a tuner - and also filling up the hard drive with bits that cannot be decoded and shown.
     
  16. Apr 5, 2015 #156 of 167
    inkahauts

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    Yeah, I hate that dang channel. I totally agree with you, I just was pointing out a workaround.

    But there are some Spanish channels you do get that could get caught too, so cchans is a good workaround for that as well.

    Frankly, I wish there was an option to ignore all non English channels, kind of like there is to hide all sd versions of hd channels, or the adult stuff.
     
  17. Apr 5, 2015 #157 of 167
    jimmie57

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    I think they could make the search just search the Favorites List you are using and that would eliminate most, if not all of the stuff you do not want to see in the results. I get over 200 channels but I only have 82 in my largest Favorite. My second favorite list only has 8 channels in it.
     
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    inkahauts

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    I agree. Although it could cause issues for sports events.
     
  19. Apr 5, 2015 #159 of 167
    Billd300

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    i am a Cincinnati Reds fan and cannot figure out how to record the HD channel for their games. They are on channel 661 in SD and 661-1 in HD the games show up in the guide on 661 first then closer to game day on 661-1. It always uses 661 not 661-1. Any help would be appreciated
     
  20. Apr 5, 2015 #160 of 167
    inkahauts

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    Try...

    AALL REDS EVENTS BASEBALL CCHANS 661 & High Def & All

    By the way, you did leave it a;one and it did record the sd game instead of the hd one right? If you messed with it, Id leave it alone and see if it actually records the sd game over the hd game at least once.
     

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