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Advanced SEARCH/AUTORECORD Help & Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Steve, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. Nov 3, 2009 #421 of 605
    BlueMonk

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    Steve --
    Thanks for your replies. I will try the AALL cowboys events HDTV suggestion.

    And yes, I think you are right that I had some guide problems this weekend. After I missed the first hour of my Cowboys game, I did the search and could not find the Eagles game. That is what made me think that my search was no good.

    Plus I had already missed the first two hours of my LSU game Saturday night. However, that was a slightly different situation and involved ESPN Gameplan. I checked the Directv Guide online last week and found that channel 788 would carry the LSU game. Then, I went to my DVR guide several times and could not find the game. Saturday morning, I found it on channel 779 (I think) and it was all set to autorecord. Checking 788 there was no mention of the LSU game so I just left the DVR as it was. As you might guess, 779 was blocked out and the game was playing on 788. Not sure if this was Directv or ESPN Gameplan's fault. It is always difficult to figure out what games are on what channel in advance. Not sure why I still subscribe since most of LSU's games are on reg channels.
     
  2. Nov 4, 2009 #422 of 605
    BlueMonk

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    Tried the suggestions and searched last night. None of them found the Cowboys and filly game this coming Sunday night. But I just received the software update yesterday too. So maybe the guide needs time to repopulate. Will check again tonight.
     
  3. Nov 4, 2009 #423 of 605
    Steve

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    Probably the case. I usually check how far out my GUIDE data currently is by tuning to a GUIDE channel and hitting the GREEN button, to quickly advance 12 hours at a time.
     
  4. Nov 5, 2009 #424 of 605
    inkahauts

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    I'd use...

    AALL COWBOYS EVENTS & Sports & Football

    I think it will give you better results...
     
  5. Nov 5, 2009 #425 of 605
    Steve

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    To eliminate rodeos? :scratchin :)
     
  6. Nov 5, 2009 #426 of 605
    Richierich

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    Should that be "AALL COWBOYS EVENTS & Sports & Football" instead of ALL???
     
  7. Nov 5, 2009 #427 of 605
    Steve

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    Correct! :)
     
  8. Nov 5, 2009 #428 of 605
    BlueMonk

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    Ok, seems to work. I used
    AALL Cowboys Events HDTV and it plans to autorecord the Sunday night game against the Eagles. I will be watching it for a few weeks to make sure. I did not see any other games in my guide at this time to double check it.

    Thanks to all and especially Steve for walking me through the process.

    And Steve, cograts on the win. I am sort of a closet NYY fan myself.
     
  9. Nov 6, 2009 #429 of 605
    inkahauts

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    yeppers.. fixed
     
  10. Nov 6, 2009 #430 of 605
    inkahauts

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    My only concern is with using HDTV in any search.. I have never seen guide data wrong for sports category's, or events, but I have for HDTV..... ANd these units always record the hd version first on their own, and would never record an sd version if there are not any hd versions available.... SI I never use HDTV on any search string...
     
  11. Nov 6, 2009 #431 of 605
    Steve

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    Agree. HDTV probably is unnecessary overkill, and including it could cause a problem if the GUIDE data is wrong, one way or the other.
     
  12. Nov 6, 2009 #432 of 605
    Steve

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    Thx! And I was at the game!!!!! I was offered an unexpected ticket about 20 rows behind first base at the last minute. It was the first MLB playoff game I ever attended, and a darned good one to go to! I'll be switching to my Giants avatar soon. God's way of keeping me humble. :lol:
     
  13. Feb 3, 2010 #433 of 605
    GordonT

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    Sorry if this has been aswered; I tried to scan this thread but couldn't find an answer.

    I created my very first advanced search:
    AALL MASH
    in order to find and record MASH episodes regardless of channel. It found several showings on both channels 304 and 312. I set up the Autorecord for 'Both' and keep up to 5 episodes.

    So far, so good. The DVR began to record showings from both channels. After a few days, I decided to increase the maximum number of episodes from 5 to 10. After doing this, I noticed that there were now 3 entries in Series Manager involving MASH:
    • AALL MASH
    • MASH on channel 304
    • MASH on channel 312

    Now I can't remember exactly how I changed the number of episodes, but I think I went into my Playlist and selected one of the entries in the AALL MASH folder and selected Series Options and changed the limit from 5 to 10. Then at some point, I noticed that the showings on channel 304 had a limit of 10 episodes, but the showings on channel 312 still had a limit of only 5, so from the Playlist I selected a showing from channel 312 and changed the Series Options from 5 to 10. It was only after doing all of this that I noticed the 2nd and 3rd MASH entries in the Series Manager.

    Is this working properly? Should I have instead gone into Series Manager, selected the single entry for AALL MASH, selected autorecord and then after it redid the search changed the limit from 5 to 10? (Series Options is not directly available from Series Manager when you select an entry for a keyword search).
     
  14. Feb 3, 2010 #434 of 605
    Steve

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    Congratulations on taking advantage of some of the more sophisticated search functionality offered by the HR2x's! :)
    Instead of AALL mash, you might want to try mash TTITLE. That will prevent auto-recording shows that may have the word "mash" in the description that aren't M*A*S*H episodes. AALL is usually reserved for searches that have more than one word, and you only want to match shows that have all those words present. E.g. AALL law order will match Law & Order and The Order of Law but not L.A. Law.

    This puzzles me. The AUTORECORD should not have generated the second and third searches you listed. (Are you sure you didn't select shows on those individual channels after the search and set up regular SL's for them?) I just ran your exact search (AALL mash) and selected AUTORECORD and it only listed one entry in my Series Manager, "AALL MASH".

    You can select an AUTORECORD in the SERIES MANAGER to change the number of episodes. The way you do this is to select the show from there and run the search again. After it searches, selecting AUTORECORD again will display your prior AUTORECORD settings with the option to "RECORD AS IS" or "SAVE CHANGES".

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    My GUIDE data doesn't show any episodes of MASH on 312 at the moment, but another option you have is to set up two separate [strike]AUTORECORDS[/strike] MASH Series Links, one on each channel, as you may have already done above.

    That would allow you to control the # of episodes more granularly than mash TTITLE, which I believe will pool the recordings from both channels against whatever "keep at most" limit you choose.
     
  15. Feb 4, 2010 #435 of 605
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    It looks like you covered all the bases, Steve... except that I'd like to remind everyone else where your Boolean-search documentation is: The 4th post in this thread.

    Also, I'd like to add that an autorecorded search like "mash TTITLE CCHAN 304", while great for testing, doesn't work as well as a plain ol' Series Link. As you know, that autorecorded search will match any show that has "mash" (or "mashing", "mashed", and so on) anywhere in either its series name or episode name. Automatic "stemming" (the appending of a wildcard '*') is applied because only one word is being searched for, and the initial AALL or AANY is missing.
     
  16. Feb 4, 2010 #436 of 605
    Steve

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    You're absolutely correct. What was I thinking? I got so focused on Boolean, I didn't realize I was actually simulating a SL. :lol:

    I've corrected the post.
     
  17. Feb 4, 2010 #437 of 605
    Richierich

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    Why can't Directv give us a Boolean Search Name such as TTIME so we can eliminate Duplicates when we schedule a Series Link and it is shown at multiple times?

    If they can't get the "First Run" Logic to work than giving us TTIME and letting us specify when they Program starts would help out tremendously with eliminating Dups!!!
     
  18. Feb 4, 2010 #438 of 605
    Steve

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    How about DDATE as well? Let's say you just started watching a show that's been on for years, and you now need to catch up on selected episodes. That happened to me with Bones, which I didn't start watching regularly until it's 4th season.

    Would be so nice to be able to search for bones DDATE 2007, or bones DDATE 0907-0408, or bones DDATE 1007 0108 (just for shows that aired in October, '07 and January, '08).
     
  19. 00derek

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    I haven't really played with smart search yet, but I'm glad to hear there are some keywords to help with searching.

    Is this thread the right place to ask about the "800-pound gorilla"?

    Do Directv have a plan to make "Channels I get" show only the channels I get, and if so, will it act as a filter for search results? I'm sure there's a whole thread on this but I can't find it.

    I do miss TiVo; if you haven't been to their website in a while you should check it out. They have not been resting on their laurels.
     
  20. Syzygy

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    No hint from anyone that CIG will be fixed. In my view, the "800-pound gorilla" is DirecTV's marketing department, which is allowed full control over features, to the detriment of usability.

    However, with the introduction of "Smart Search" (aka Search for Dummies) in the 0x0395 NR a few weeks ago, D* finally gave a slight bow in the direction of the subscriber (and away from the marketeers) by dimming, or graying out, channels you don't receive in the search results. Unfortunately, their CIG list still isn't all that accurate. Furthermore, polluting the list of results with grayed-out items you can't receive (evidently to urge you to upgrade your subscription) slows you down and pushes desired matches off the end of the list.
     

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