After 15 years, decided to bail on DTV. A few questions first!

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  1. Sep 21, 2019 #41 of 111
    glrush

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    I saw my first one about a week ago....featuring Andrew Luck ! Whooops !
     
  2. Sep 21, 2019 #42 of 111
    b4pjoe

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    Unless you watch a LOT of TV 1 TB would suffice for a whole family of people streaming.

    How Easy Is It to Burn Through a 1TB Data Cap?

    Maybe you do a lot of other high data usage with your internet service but that certainly would not be the case for most so it isn't a given that everyone is going to need to spend another $50 to remove their data cap. A lot of people don't even have a data cap in the first place.
     
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  3. Sep 21, 2019 #43 of 111
    icr2002

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    i THINK THAT ALL STREAMING SERVICES SHOULD ADD CHANEL NUMBERS. nOT ALL EDLERLY CAN USE A GUIDE. cHANNEL NUMBERS IS HOW MY ELDERLY PARENTS GET AROUND ON dIRECT tV. i THINK PLUTO TV OFFERS THIS IN THEIR SERVICE. aRE THERE OTHERS?
     
  4. Sep 21, 2019 #44 of 111
    mjwagner

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    As long as it would be an option that could be toggled on or off, yes. Most streaming device remotes, and many universal remotes for that matter, don’t even include number buttons anymore though. While I appreciate that some folks like/prefer channel numbers unfortunately it does seem like they are fast disappearing. Perhaps it is something that could be added into the “Accessibility” subsystems that most streaming devices now have.
     
  5. Sep 21, 2019 #45 of 111
    Rich

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    PS Vue has some type of channel designation doesn't it? How does a Guide without numbers or some way to sort channels work? Just curious.

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    Interesting article, makes me happy Optimum by Altice (that's really the name) has no caps. We would hit a 1TB cap quite often. My son is a gamer on top of all the streaming we do.

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  7. Sep 21, 2019 #47 of 111
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    I agree with you. There should be some kind of designation for channels. But that would only work for cable replacement services such as YTTV. You simply would not have any use for channel numbers on streaming video services such as Netflix or Amazon Prime.

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  8. Sep 21, 2019 #48 of 111
    b4pjoe

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    I can't speak of PS Vue but on YTTV if you are in the Guide the only option that I know of is to scroll to the channel you want and press enter which is not ideal. Granted there aren't nearly as many channels as there are with D* but still it isn't ideal.
     
  9. Sep 21, 2019 #49 of 111
    SledgeHammer

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    My typical internet usage is 200GB to 400GB a month with ZERO streaming depending on other activities. Yup, it varies that much. My DVR typically has 30 - 50 hrs to record in the 2 week guide period. That however doesn't account for what I'll call "drive by watching". I.e. you're bored and looking for stuff to watch so you'll watch / record unplanned stuff. That varies a lot for me... I might drive by on some TBBT episodes or TAHM episodes, etc. or something looks interesting on Science or Discovery, etc. Sometimes during chores, I'll put on a channel in the background. That's separate from the drive by category.

    So yeah, I might need the 1TB and I might not. If I monitored for 3 or 4 months and I never came close to it with the same viewing habits, then it wouldn't be an issue.

    Regardless though, even without the data cap, through the loyalty program, I'm paying the same as I would for Hulu+Philio and I'd still need a solution for PBS. As I mentioned, I think my bill is going up next month when the rest of one promo falls off and it'll be $12 more then streaming. For $12/mo I wouldn't lose sleep over it as I don't want the "hassle factor" involved with streaming. That's a personal preference. And I am going to try loyalty to see if I can get that brought back down to the 70's.

    If the loyalty program officially ends and I have to pay full price, then I'd look at Cox and Dish new customer promos (most likely Cox to make it easier to switch back to DirecTV if needed). I've remained loyal to DirecTV for 17+ yrs because they've treated me well. Some of you may scoff at that, but no, I don't consider their poor CSR / technical support as being treated poorly. I pay my bill on time and in full every month. I don't bother calling them for tech support, because that's useless. Only time I ever call them is to re-up the loyalty.

    If I happen to move to an area with GoogleFiber, I'd switch to that and dump both Cox and DirecTV.

    If I have a change in life where I need to have 16 TVs, then there's no cost effective solution with traditional for that unless you use a distribution system powered off one DVR.
     
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  10. Sep 21, 2019 #50 of 111
    decker12

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    Thanks again everyone for their opinions and comments on this thread! I really appreciate all the input.

    I also just got off the phone with the Loyalty Department at DTV and all they could do for me was $5 off HBO for 6 months and $5 off my programming package, presumably also for 6 months. That was discouraging to find out how little they could do to retain me, but it also sounds in line with other people's experience with retention. The lady was pretty nice, and the service with her was fine, but I do have to say she didn't try very hard to retain me. Once I got through to her department, and told her $85 was the number to beat, she offered me those two deals and then processed my cancellation, and I was off the phone in 10 minutes.
     
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    There's no way to sort the channels on YTTV? Can't even search for what you want? I can see where that would take some time to get used to. I did start a free trial of YTTV but all I was interested in was the YES channel and found that quickly.

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    Those people in the Loyalty department are usually very courteous. I can see why getting credits is so difficult at this time, what with all the cancellations. Upper management must be in a dither.

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  13. Sep 21, 2019 #53 of 111
    mjwagner

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    I’ll need to start with the caveat that the PSVue UI is not consistent across streaming devices and I only use Android based streaming devices (FireTV devices and Nvidia Shields) with the exception of 1 ATV 4K. On those devices their are no channel numbers, just channel names but you can designate favorites in the guide which appear at the beginning of the guide. I never really used channel numbers even when I had D so it was not something I missed or had to get used to.
     
  14. Sep 21, 2019 #54 of 111
    TV_Guy

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    YTTV channel sequence can be changed in a browser to whatever sequence you desire or channels can be hidden. And there is a search feature.
     
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  15. Sep 21, 2019 #55 of 111
    TV_Guy

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    As of November you won't need a PBS solution on YTTV.
    Report: PBS coming to YouTube TV this November - 9to5Google
     
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    espaeth

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    As TV_Guy pointed out, you can fully customize the entire guide order on YTTV. You want YES to be the top channel in your guide? No problem! You want to hide all the Disney channels? Done.

    The best part of YTTV is the home screen, though. Once you tell it you like a given team, or a specific league, or once you add programs to your library (DVR) so it has a profile of what you like, it will automatically surface things you likely want to watch at that moment right to the top of your home screen.

    For the NHL playoffs, there were games on NBCSN, USA, and CNBC. When I’d launch YTTV, the 3 active games would just automatically be presented to me on the home screen once they were being broadcast. I didn’t have to know or care about which channel was airing a given team on any given night. Same thing with Twins baseball all summer — didn’t matter if it was on the FOX RSN, FS1, or a local channel - the Twins would just show up as an event to watch. No need to scroll a guide if what you want to watch is already front and center.

    The additional winning thing with YTTV is search. When you go to the search page you get a number of options besides just the search bar. You can browse live and upcoming sporting events, TV shows, movies, news, and family programming. You can select individual networks and get taken to a list of all of the popular series that air on that given network. You can see a list of currently popular/trending shows. A list of leagues you can follow. Shows by category (reality, sitcoms, crime drama, peabody award winners, etc). A traditional cable/sat guide is only so useful for surfacing things to watch; if you turn to HGTV during a Flip or Flop marathon weekend, it’s not going to help you see other things that will eventually be on that channel. This is where the search interface is vastly superior.
     
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  17. Sep 21, 2019 #57 of 111
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    The channels that no one watches like all the shopping channels actually lower the costs - they pay DTV to be in the line up.

    I think certain things are going to get worse - not only are current streaming channels going to increase prices but I think we will more and more separate streams - just as NBC has just announced. I think the streaming services will lose many of their included channels and force us to buy NBC, ESPN, HBO+, etc. separately. CBS on streaming forces you to watch commercials if you wait more than 24 hours to watch recorded.
     
  18. Sep 21, 2019 #58 of 111
    SledgeHammer

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    Interesting. You've been with DirecTV for 15 yrs? Or are you including AT&T services in that regard? How long have you been with DirecTV proper?
     
  19. Sep 21, 2019 #59 of 111
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    I agree with some of what you say. I'm also still a DirecTV subscriber. Streaming takes some getting used to and I doubt my wife would ever fully get over the "hassle factor" as you describe it so I'll probably be on DirecTV for quite some time to come. Myself...I stream more than I watch DirecTV. The only thing I watch over DirecTV is what I record which is not much during the summer months. The new TV season kicks into high gear next week so it will be more soon. Even at though since I have the commercial free version of CBS all Access I watch CBS shows from it. No commercials and nothing to fast forward through like there is on the DVR. :) One thing I don't like about streaming is even when using my DirecTV credentials for apps like Discovery Go to watch full seasons of their shows you cannot skip commercials. And there are a lot of them. I think the more you watch them the more commercials they add. And it isn't just Discovery Go. It is a lot of the channel apps. Discovery is supposed to launch their own streaming service next year. I'd bet they have a basic version and higher priced "ad free" version the way CBS All Access is. Pretty soon every channel will have their own streaming service and to get all of them you want to watch you'll probably be paying more than DirecTV is now. This streaming thing though is still in its infancy. I'm sure it will change a lot in the coming years.
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2019 #60 of 111
    b4pjoe

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    Like others have said the YTTV guide is customizable and there is a search function. I'm sure the more you use it the better it gets. To me it still isn't as easy as punching in the number and have it go directly to the end destination though.
     

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