After 15 years, decided to bail on DTV. A few questions first!

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  1. Sep 21, 2019 #61 of 111
    Hdhead

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    My wife was very skeptical about dropping Directv. When we first changed she was cussing and said she hated it and wanted Directv back. I added BritBox and Netflix for her which she loves both. Fast forward 1 month, After she has become familiar with all the operating characteristics she has completely changed her attitude. I asked her today if she wants Directv back, she looked at me sheepishly and shook her head no.
     
  2. Sep 21, 2019 #62 of 111
    bobcnn

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    Same here, been a Directv customer for 25 years, had called in this week to see what offers they had since I just had $60 in credits roll off. Their only offer was to reduce my package. I put my account on hold to try out streaming services. I found one that I like and this coming week, I'm going to call and cancel Directv. I know new subscribers get special deals, you think they could offer something to someone that has been with them since 1994. So now my monthly bill will be $50, not $160.
     
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  3. Sep 22, 2019 #63 of 111
    grover517

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    In PS Vue's app channel guide (at least on my FireTV 4K sticks), local channels (that are available in your area) are up front and sorted by their numerical "virtual" channel numbers that you are familiar with followed by the "cable" channels that are sorted alphabetically by name and don't have assigned channel numbers.
     
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  4. Sep 22, 2019 #64 of 111
    grover517

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    I had a similar experience. I kept D* active for the first 2 months of having our FireTV/Recast OTA DVR setup up and running. I "asked" her to try and use the FireTV setup by default but if she got frustrated or I wasn't around to answer questions to just flip inputs and go back to D*. Took a good month before she showed major signs of grasping how to do things with FireTV and after the second month and a bit of customization of the FireTV UI and the installation of a few more apps to better fit her viewing habits, she told me to "make the call". As for me missing D*? I started missing the D* I knew the first time I got connected to the overseas call center and it only got worse from there. AT&T found a way to destroy any value D* had for us after 20 years, so we left. And now that we have, I truly don't envision any situation where we would ever consider going back to D* under AT&T or any other AT&T operated MVPD for that matter at any price.
     
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  5. Sep 22, 2019 #65 of 111
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    Channels that pay to be be on Directv do not lower your costs. They feed AT&T's profit line. Your cost is based on what AT&T thinks you'll pay to maximize revenue.

     
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  6. Sep 22, 2019 #66 of 111
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    I never paid much attention to the channel numbers either. Guess that's why all this talk about no numbers puzzles me. I haven't recorded a series in over 3 years and when I have to find a channel on D* it is an ordeal. How people can call streaming more difficult, harder to use than "normal" TV really puzzles me.

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  7. Sep 22, 2019 #67 of 111
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    Geeze, you make YTTV sound like it's easier to use than cable or sat. Reading this post made me want to go out and get YTTV. Kinda figured Google might blow everybody out of the water.

    Well, that's all the positive stuff, what don't you like about YTTV? I have all kinds of complaints about streaming sites and devices but know little about cable replacement services. I am aware of the vast difference between cable replacement services and video streaming services. A lot of the confusion we see about streaming is caused by lumping those two services together.

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  8. Sep 22, 2019 #68 of 111
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    Smart woman, your wife. Impressive. Please pass this on...

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  9. Sep 22, 2019 #69 of 111
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    I would personally absolutely give YTTV a try if they would fix 2 things. Currently no NFL Network and no app for FireTV devices although supposedly the second issue is supposed to be fixed sometime later this year. But with no NFL Network it’s a non-starter for me.
     
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  10. Sep 22, 2019 #70 of 111
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    The point is that the free or paying channels people complain about (usually with the false statement of "I don't want to pay for shopping/religious/etc") are not being paid for by AT&T|DIRECTV. Dropping all of those channels would not reduce any subscriber's bill. And if AT&T|DIRECTV wanted to maintain their profit margin, they would need to raise their rates to compensate for the lost income. There would also be the potential for lost subscribers ... people do watch the free and paying channels. For a viewer who likes a channel it doesn't matter if AT&T|DIRECTV is paying the channel or the channel is paying AT&T|DIRECTV ... they want the content. If a channel is willing to pay AT&T|DIRECTV for distribution it makes it an easier channel to carry.
     
  11. Sep 22, 2019 #71 of 111
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    Really? You don’t type in channel 631 to watch the Yankees? :)

    Channel numbers make it easier to go to a specific channel, both linear and in the guide.

    How do you change channels on a streaming service?
     
  12. Sep 22, 2019 #72 of 111
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    I switched from DTV to YoutubeTV last week after my DTV bill was going to go from about $75 to $165 and retentions wouldn't do anything. My parents were also on my DTV account and we dish stacked (I know I know).

    Things I like about YoutubeTV:

    - Better picture quality. Even at 720p the picture is much sharper and clearer than DTV. When I was setting up YTTV for my parents the first thing my mom said was how much better the picture was and it didn't look as soft as DTV. At 1080p setting YTTV is galaxies better than DTV.

    - Fast guide and channel changes. Any recent AppleTV, Roku, AndroidTV, etc. is going to be much faster at channel changing and guide scrolling than DTV. It's nice to change a channel and not have the delay you sometimes get on DTV. The guide is incredibly fast too. I use a 4th gen AppleTV and the parents use a Roku 3/Roku premiere. YTTV is fast on all of them.

    - Unlimited DVR. You can store as many recordings as you want going back 9 months. The "recordings" are really just video on demand with no commercials.

    Things I'd like to see in YTTV:

    - Removing single episodes from recordings. Currently when you "record" something it shows up in your library to watch for 9 months. If you record a series there's no way to remove just one episode from showing up in the of recorded episodes.

    - Dedicated streaming box for YTTV. If google released a dedicated streaming box for a reasonable price ($59-$79) with a remote that was more like a standard DTV/cable remote I'd buy it in a second. It would allow them to add channel numbers and buttons for recording, fast forward, etc.
     
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  13. Sep 22, 2019 #73 of 111
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    The one thing that bugs me about YTTV is how they handle the MLB Network. They hide the Alternate Channel and sometimes you have to do a search to locate it when you are blacked out of the primary channel. Yesterday's Cardinals @ Cubs game ran very long. The next game was to be the Mets @ Reds joined in progress around 5 PM. This needed to be blacked out in NY. A little after 5 PM I started getting a blackout slide for the long running Cardinals @ Cubs game. This happened about 5 more times until the game ended around 6:45 PM. Each time I had to go back to the guide and click on the game to continue viewing.

    They do automatically extend DVR recordings for long running events like this. I called customer service once for a similar issue and they wanted to do an in depth analysis but this should be a known issue in how they are applying blackouts. D* had there own issues with not carrying the MLB Alternate Channel when they were tight on transponder capacity.
     
  14. Sep 22, 2019 #74 of 111
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    I tried Suppose TV today and it actually listed DirecTV as my cheapest option lol. If I'm willing to drop a bunch of channels to "nice to have" instead of "must have", then there a few cheaper options, but not by much. That's of course assuming the loyalty program doesn't end. If it does, then its a different ball game.
     
  15. Sep 22, 2019 #75 of 111
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    CBS has forced commercials on YTTV (after a day or two?).
     
  16. Sep 22, 2019 #76 of 111
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    Yes, I know that YES is on 631. I know some games are on WPIX out of NYC on channel 11. Aside from them...

    If you have to ask, "How do you change channels on a streaming service?", I'm gonna have to ask you to at least try it, you'll catch on.

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  17. Sep 22, 2019 #77 of 111
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    Posts like this make me happy.

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  18. Sep 22, 2019 #78 of 111
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    I like just about everything about YTTV but I also have problems with keeping every episode for 9 months without a way to get rid of them. Also if a show comes on several times, you get every episode. I record Pardon the Interruption on ESPN each day. That episode will air several more times over the next few hours on the various ESPN networks, and you get each one, and they will be there for 9 months. Also for a show like The Simpsons, it airs of several channels in reruns, every single episode is listed in your DVR, but I only want new episodes. I wish there was a way, like on Directv you could pick just new episodes, and on which channel you want to use to record them. I took a hard look at both YTTV, and Playstation Vue, both are good, and have the channels I want. But I liked YTTV better on the program guide, where you can order the stations the way you want them, and remove stations you are never going to watch. Also I like the way the program guide looks on mobile, where as you go through the guide, live video plays in a box next to each listing. The other is recording sports. on Playstation, if you want to record your favorite college team, you get every college game that airs. For example you might get 25 games recorded on any given Saturday. On YTTV if you pick a game with your favorite team, a box will come up and ask if you want to record all games with your team, all games on the other team, and all college (or NFL) games that are on. That goes for every sports. Another thing I like about streaming services over Directv, is that out of your home some channels (usually locals you can not play on a mobile device on the Direct app. On the streaming services you get every channel when you not at home. Also if you should leave your market, it plays the network affiliates in whichever market you are in, but if you have set up DVR recordings, the stations from your local market will record. One other negative about YTTV is that if you record a show on the CBS affiliate, and you wait to the following day to watch it, you get the on demand version. The best part is when I cancel Monday after 25 years, my bill to watch TV will go from around $160 to $50. I will miss Directv, but the $110 in savings makes it much easier to leave.
     
  19. Sep 22, 2019 #79 of 111
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    Gee, could all these posts we've seen recently about how much more streaming costs be just more BS? The posts I'm reading today seem to be saying it's much cheaper than cable or sat.

    Rich
     
  20. Sep 22, 2019 #80 of 111
    eric89074

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    That's a bummer. Luckily I don't watch much on CBS other than sports. I hope more networks don't try this nonsense.

    There's a few channels that would be nice to have that YTTV doesn't have yet (mom really wants gameshow network and I'll have to figure out a way to watch the next season of vanilla ice project) but nothing crazy. I don't know if I'll get over losing the 16 religious channels :p.
     
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