After 15 years, decided to bail on DTV. A few questions first!

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  1. Sep 22, 2019 #81 of 111
    bobcnn

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    You might try Pluto TV, it's free, they have a lot of interesting channels, one Buzzr, which is only old game shows. Also have channels on about everything you can think of. Another similar network is Stirr, much the same channels, including Buzzr, but their program guide is clunky.
     
  2. Sep 22, 2019 #82 of 111
    SledgeHammer

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    Ha... fellow VIP watcher. Yeah, DIY is a hard find on streaming.

    But to be fair, DIY is shutting down in 2020 and being rebranded as Magnolia under the Gaines. VIP, Pool Kings, etc. may be scrapped and/or move to different channels like HGTV.

    I would be surprised if VIP is cancelled since its one of the higher rated shows.
     
  3. Sep 22, 2019 #83 of 111
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    frndly TV Would be a good one to get for Mom. Has the Gameshow Network plus all the Hallmark channels. Also has the Weather Channel which is curiously missing from most all streaming services.
     
  4. Sep 22, 2019 #84 of 111
    Hdhead

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    Pluto TV - The Eye Candy Network. a Man Cave must have
     
  5. Sep 22, 2019 #85 of 111
    James Long

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    "Streaming" isn't one service from one company. Neither is "cable". 15 years ago we were having arguments comparing DIRECTV (a single company service) to cable. The problem of "cable" not being a single company was a constant problem. Channel lineups would vary (even on systems owned by the same brand), rates and fees would vary, policies would vary, features would vary, UIs would vary. Usually the more adamant a poster was about "cable" being better the more likely that poster was talking about their own narrow use case.

    The answer to "how do you change channels on a streaming service" depends on the streaming service. Does every streaming service have the same UI? If not, then you cannot give a simplistic sarcastic and snide answer to the question.

    The real question is how do I find the content I want to watch ... and as a continuing subscriber to DIRECTV you know that question can be "not on streaming". Such situations can be downplayed as a "narrow use case" such as people who want NFL Sunday Ticket needing to subscribe to DIRECTV satellite (with a few exceptions that are not available to all). With multiple services using different UIs answering that question requires one to ask "what streaming service" and "what device". Not a simple answer.

    If you know that what you want to watch is on your local NBC affiliate (channel 16.1 or 16 on both satellite services and most cable services in my market) it is easy to find channel 16. If someone is looking for Fox programming in my market they know to turn to channel 22.2 (or 28 on both satellite services in my market, since 22 is taken by the CBS affiliate). These numbers are burned in to our memories and reinforced every time we watch the channels. The local channels advertise by number (which is why channel 16 didn't change to channel 42 during digital conversion and won't be changing to channel 27 during the repack - at least not on the marketing side). Channel numbers are and remain important.

    My father in law changed TV providers about a year ago and got a new channel lineup ... all the numbers changed except the locals (he moved within the same television market). It took him a few months but now he changes channels much like a streamer. In his case he has a voice remote ... he presses the button, speaks the channel name and options appear. He can either watch the channel he named live or watch on demand content from that channel. He also uses the browse function on his remote that shows the last few stations viewed and what is on now. Unfortunately that means he watches the same few channels most of the time (since that is what shows on the screen). But he can open the full guide and find other channels to watch. But while most UIs are similar, not all UIs are identical.

    The honest answer to "how do you change channels on a streaming service" is to ask which service and which device and be willing to admit that there is no simple answer. If you want to be honest.
     
  6. Sep 22, 2019 #86 of 111
    TheRatPatrol

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    I was being sarcastic as there are no channel numbers on streaming. :)

    And yes I have tried one of the streaming services (Sling) and I hated it. Changing channels was a PITA.
     
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  7. Sep 22, 2019 #87 of 111
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    The purpose of companies is to make money - you might not like the way they do it. but if they didn't make money they don't exist. The same way all the companies that they have to contracts with occasionally make profits and thus DTV and thus you pay for those profits. If you owned a company I'm sure you'd charge as much as you could to maximize your income
     
  8. Sep 22, 2019 #88 of 111
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    Beyond the usual stuff (channels missing requiring additional services), and the well known CBS/CW/POP VOD swap situation, here’s the downsides:

    - DVR has a 2 hour maximum look-back. Say I recorded a baseball game that had a rain delay starting around the 3rd or 4th inning. I go to start watching 4 hours after the game start (when the game should be over), but it’s still going because of the delay. When you select the game and try to resume from the beginning, it will only jump back a maximum of 2 hours while the event is still in progress. Once the event is completely over, then you can watch from the beginning without issue.

    - Similarly, if you’re watching a long-running event on DVR delay to catch up to live, and you don’t make it to live by the end of the broadcast timeslot, the recording will initially appear to cut off the end of the game. At that point you have to go back to your library and start the game out of the list there. Extensions to recordings are added after the conclusion to an event, so you need to re-start playback to “refresh” the new longer end time of the event.

    - There is no way to mark shows as “watched” in the DVR, besides watching them through to the end.

    - On 1080i stations (any of the *NBC stations), YTTV applies adaptive de-interlacing to turn those broadcasts into a 1080p60 video feed. Most of the time the result is a really clean picture, but occasionally the de-interlacing algorithm gets confused. Scrolling text, in particular, will occasionally have heavy comb artifacts.

    - TV Everywhere app authorizations are missing a few things. Particularly ATT/WarnerMedia properties like CNN and TBS.

    - YTTV supports profiles, but each profile needs to be its own Google account.

    All of the streaming service DVRs operate differently than what we’re used to on DIRECTV, but of all the services I’ve tried YTTV gets the most things right.
     
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  9. Sep 22, 2019 #89 of 111
    eric89074

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    Thanks! Mom is very happy now.
     
  10. Sep 23, 2019 #90 of 111
    Rich

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    Yeah, I've looked Slingbox in a home and didn't see anything that would interest me. Looked usable.

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  11. Sep 23, 2019 #91 of 111
    Rich

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    What you detailed so well about the DVR function would bother me. Just reading about that kinda kills any thoughts about giving YTTV a try. Perhaps they'll get all that fixed in a few months. Still can't beat D* when it comes to watching sports.

    Thanks, good post!

    Rich
     
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  12. Sep 23, 2019 #92 of 111
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    The DVR function on all the streamers that offer it just isn’t anywhere close to being as useful pleasant as what we have on our cable/sat DVRs, IMO.


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    I meant SlingTV, not Slingbox.
     
  14. Sep 23, 2019 #94 of 111
    bobcnn

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    Yes, one thing I will miss as I leave Directv, after 25 years, is their DVR (and a few other things) but is it worth paying $110 more per month to keep Directv, as much as I will miss it, no. :).
     
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    Rich

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    Yup, better the devil you know...

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    Rich

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    Didn't know there was a difference. Educate me?

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  17. Sep 23, 2019 #97 of 111
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    It's worth it for me. The DVR functions of the cable replacement services are disturbing.

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    bobcnn

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    Sling TV is the streaming service, slingbox allows you to watch your TV (cable, satellite, DVR) anywhere in the world. Slingbox is really nice, but I will be retiring mine sine there is no need for it when I leave Directv.
     
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  20. bobcnn

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    Well I called to officially cancel my Directv account after more than 25 years, and the best offer retention could offer me was $10 off a month for a year (just had $60 fall off) I said no thanks. Bad thing is my billing date is the 15, so the disconnect will be on the 14th. Even if the turned it off right now, I will still be charged more than $160. I will really miss Direct, but I have to remember it is just TV, and for $110 less a month, I will still get the same amount of entertainment, and I can take every channel with me when I’m away from home (I know you could watch most channels on mobile with Direct, but most of the locals are for in home use only).
     
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