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Agent wanted (LitzDog?) for eSATA upgrade

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by oldbamaguy, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. Jun 3, 2009 #1 of 53
    oldbamaguy

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    Well I just found this forum this week. I was looking to expand the memory in my two HR20-100s. Before this week, I had never even HEARD of an SATA drive. I'm thinking that I could spend the next couple of weeks reading and asking questions and finally come up with some plan that might work.
    This morning I had a brilliant idea (I think anyway). I hire an agent, (I am familiar with Litzdog from the Directv forums) and I pay him/her say $100 and he/she comes up with a plan for me saving wear and tear on my poor old overworked brain.
    The plan would be something like this: you need to get two model xxx, make xxx drives of size 2tb (or more) from dealer, xxx, yyy or zzz. (I'm thinking enclosed drives.) You will (or will not) need two make xxx eSATA cables. Included would be hints on connection, etc.
    I'm looking in the neighborhood of $1000 for this project.
    I like things KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid).
    Your thoughts????
    TYVM!!!
    oldbamaguy (71 in september)
     
  2. Jun 3, 2009 #2 of 53
    CCarncross

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    DOn't make it so hard, and expensive on yourself...

    Order 2 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371008&Tpk=antec mx-1

    And 2 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136344

    Install the drives in the cases(probably the most awkward part, but only take 5-10 minutes). power down your HR's, hook these up, power them up, then plug your HR's back in to house power...you're done. The enclosures come with the eSATA cables, its virtually a no-brainer, and you've only spent about $600.
     
  3. Jun 3, 2009 #3 of 53
    Rich

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    Good to see the 2TB drive finally coming down in price. Two of those would certainly give him plenty of storage. More than he probably needs. I'd go to Amazon and get two Seagate Barracuda 1.5TBs and two Antecs. That would only cost him a bit less than $300. And, it's still a lot of storage. Of course if money is not an issue, I'd go with the WD 2TBs as you suggested. What stops me from getting a couple of them is not so much the price, but the fact that in a few months they will be selling them for about half of today's prices. Be a nice start for him, tho.

    Rich
     
  4. Jun 3, 2009 #4 of 53
    Clemsole

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    Use a external drive. if you open the case on your leased HR20's it will cost you over $400.00 to replace one if it ever failes.
     
  5. Jun 3, 2009 #5 of 53
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    nobody suggested that here.
     
  6. Jun 3, 2009 #6 of 53
    oldbamaguy

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    Well, I can remember paying over $300 for a 100 meg for my 386/25. So paying over $300 for 10,000 or 20,000 times more memory doesn't seem too bad. I'm not rich, but have no dependents or debts, so $1000 doesn't seem too expensive to me. I'm thinking an enclosed model might be better with a fan etc and no chance for me to mess up anything. I worked electonics in the 60s and 70s, but I haven't done much since then. I appreciate your input, but quite frankly, egghead has a negative connotation for me. I'd rather pay, say Dell, a hundred more for the same WD or Seagate drive.
    Again TYVM!!!
    oldbamaguy
     
  7. Jun 3, 2009 #7 of 53
    CCarncross

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    Newegg is a very solid company, in fact I'm sure many on this site order from them quite frequently. I probably order something from them at least once a month and have never had any issues at all. Their order process is very organized and their shipping time is fantastic, usually 3 days from the date of the order and its at my door.
     
  8. Jun 3, 2009 #8 of 53
    Athlon646464

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    Newegg is great - I've ordered stuff from them for years now and I've never had a problem. If they do make a mistake however, their return process is very easy and very fair.

    Most of the time you cannot beat their prices and shipping time!

    :D
     
  9. Jun 3, 2009 #9 of 53
    pfp

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    +1
     
  10. Aztec Pilot

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    Why the negative connotation :confused: If you want to pay more, you could get something similar from Best Buy.
     
  11. PokerJoker

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    Sorry, but you are completely off base here. Newegg has absolutely nothing - and I mean nothing whatsoever - to do with the former Egghead company. The word "egg" is the only common factor.

    They are by a long shot the best Internet retailer of computer parts in the country. In my opinion. If you don't believe me, go to resellerratings.com and check there. Check Dell's rating while there - it's WAY worse than Newegg, as are almost all the names you may have heard of.

    If you just can't bring yourself to use them, then try Amazon. If you stick to the stuff that Amazon themselves actually sells and ships, they are excellent. Unfortunately they also are the storefront for a jillion small vendors (and several large ones) and purposely blur the differences between them and Amazon proper. They call it marketing, I call it useless clutter.

    But really, you have no reason to fear Newegg.
     
  12. oldbamaguy

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    Gee and I thought "the agent" approach would work, of course I just had the idea this morning. I spent over a week getting the power bars so that I could connect the internet to my receivers over existing power lines. It was a long tough haul. Liztdog gave me the answers over on the Directv tech forum.
    I certainly appreciate all the various inputs here!!
    Anybody got any thoughts about a 3tb?
    I understand about disk prices and how todays price will be in half next week or month. I really don't have any problem with that. I'm looking at the rapidly approaching NFL Preseason (August). I just went to Directv HDRS in May when ComCast saw fit to drop the NFL Network (I've been getting the NFL Sunday ticket since 2000).
    I'm definitely leaning toward the enclosed unit. The $1000 was my initial off-the-top of my head figure.
    Since I like to KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) I'm seeing this scenario:
    buy 2 enclosed drives and cables if required (I buy things over the internet regularily)
    unplug everything
    connect eSATA cables and plug in external drive, power on
    plug in and power on Directv DVRs
    wait for formatting, uploading etc
    (lose all old memory items) new memory (external mostly blank)
    go for it!!
    Anything wrong with that??
    TYVM!!
    oldbamaguy
     
  13. dave29

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    I would definitely buy what CCarncross proposed. The Antec MX-1 enclosures will work with your receivers for sure, and it only takes a couple minutes to install the drives in them.
     
  14. oldbamaguy

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    I guess I was thinking about the "old" egghead. I haven't dealt with egghead since the 80s. My problem is more with the name than any actual transaction. I find in my old age, I don't like terms like stupid, idiot or egghead.
    I have received inputs from quite a few egghead supporters.
    I'm still leaning toward an enclosed unit. And the WD Green Caviar 2tb drive sounds like a winner to me unless a 3tb drive would work.
    Best Wishes to All!!
    oldbamaguy
     
  15. Scott Corbett

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    What happens when you unplug an eSATA drive from an HR20-100?:confused:

    Do the programs from the internal drive become viewable again or what?
     
  16. pfp

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    Yes.
    Do be sure to unplug the esata cable when the DVR is unplugged though.
     
  17. oldbamaguy

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    I have seen recommendations about limiting the connections/disconnections of the eSATA cables (questionable cable, pins, who knows). However somewhere else I saw with multiple eSATA drives use, say one for movies and another for sports.

    Concerning the enclosures recommended by CCarncross, there seems to be more than a few problems with a noisy fan that I saw at egghead's feedback on the Antec MX-1 (just when I was going to go "that way").

    I'd still like to go with an enclosed model.

    Many Thanks to All!!!
    oldbamaguy
     
  18. Scott Corbett

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    Thanks.

    Sorry but I forgot to ask the other question. If the eSATA is replugged, will the programs on it be viewable?
     
  19. jodyguercio

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    Yes they will.
     
  20. oldbamaguy

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    You might note, however, that the programs will only be viewable on the DVR they were recorded on. You can't swap from machine to machine (something about copywrite rules).
    Best Wishes!!
    oldbamaguy
     

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