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Al Jazeera Gets Current

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by SayWhat?, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. Jan 3, 2013 #21 of 201

    Richjr42 New Member

    Nov 10, 2012
    This is all well and good. But if they drop "Talking Liberally with Stephanie Miller" in the morning,i will NOT be happy!
  2. Jan 3, 2013 #22 of 201

    Araxen Icon

    Dec 18, 2005
    Great news! Al Jazeera English is great! I watched it everyday on Youtube.
  3. Jan 3, 2013 #23 of 201
    Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    A few years ago Al Jazeera was negotiating for carriage on Dish. The outcry against the network on the Dish forum was severe and the deal fell through. Since then snippets of AlJaz programs can be found on Free Speech TV.

    You may not agree with this network's viewpoints, but there is free speech in the USA and you can block the channel if you don't want to see it. Please don't threaten your provider over this network as was the case a few years ago.
  4. Jan 4, 2013 #24 of 201

    AlexCF AllStar

    Oct 14, 2006
    If folks want to threaten to drop their television service because they don't agree with what their subscription fees are paying for, that's their right of free speech.

    I've been a customer of DirecTV for many, many years. If they don't drop this network before the transition, I may very well drop DirecTV. That's my choice, and it's their choice. Choices are good, that tells us there's still freedom left in these lands.
  5. Jan 4, 2013 #25 of 201

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
  6. Jan 4, 2013 #26 of 201
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    The mental connection between AJ English and the Arab channel is strong. A few years back the Arab version seemed to run from "insensitive to the US" to outright "anti-American propaganda".

    Al Jazeera is still carried as an international channel on DISH ... AJ English did not get added. Russia Today provides a "world voice" news service and has been added by DISH. And as you mentioned, Free Speech TV exists and carries "world voice" news (presented from a viewpoint that does not automatically consider America to be a good country).

    True, there are literally hundreds of channels on the top providers. It is easy enough to find another channel and ignore the few that may be considered offensive to each individual.

    The providers do need to look at ratings vs cost. If a channel is demanding high payment and is not pulling the viewers the providers should take their money elsewhere. But as long as these "unwanted" channels keep their rates low (or pay for carriage as Free Speech TV does) they will remain.

    And from that perspective I can understand why a subscriber might say that they don't want a dime of their subscription fee to go for a channel they do not want to pay for ... and if their conviction is so strong that they need to leave that provider and find another to give their dimes to that is their choice.
  7. Jan 4, 2013 #27 of 201
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Certainly every subscriber has a right to that point of view... but I wonder... do they investigate all channels they watch and make sure 100% that they aren't funded in part or whole by someone they disagree with?

    There might not be much TV left to watch.

    On the flip side... while I support the right... I find it disingenuous to try and force a company not to carry a channel in order to keep you as a subscriber. Arguably, you are forcing your views about that channel on others who might want to watch it... which is ironic, given that you are exercising your freedom to inhibit the freedom of someone else.

    Again... I agree with the right to react... but I think a smarter protest is to express your displeasure and then just not watch the channel.
  8. Jan 4, 2013 #28 of 201

    lipcrkr Legend

    Apr 27, 2012
    For all you DirecTV subscribers who are going ballistic because the Arabs are taking over the airwaves..........i have a suggestion:
    Go into Settings>Favorites>Custom 1 or whatever>and delete the Channel. You will never EVER hear about it again.
    For the rest of us...........Al Jazeera TV will be just one-click away.
  9. Jan 4, 2013 #29 of 201

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Remember, Al-Jazeera was the only news organization that reported on the stonewalling of the Zadroga bill - the bill that was supposed to provide health care for the 9-11 First Responders. (First responders were being kicked off their health plans, workmen's comp wouldn't cover them, and there were incredibly high cancer rates going through these people).

    Until a *comedian* (Jon Stewart of The Daily Show) picked up the story, *nobody* from CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CNBC, et al covered it AT ALL - *except* Al-Jazeera who devoted en entire in-depth 20 minute segment to the story. I'm sure Fox, CNN and the others were too busy with whatever the Kardashians were doing to pay attention.
  10. Jan 4, 2013 #30 of 201

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009
    To some folks, if it ain't on Fox News, it ain't news and shouldn't be broadcast anywhere.

    That's what I did with Fox 'News'.
  11. Jan 4, 2013 #31 of 201

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    There are exceptions to free speech you know... Speech that incites riots or any violence is not protected. Neither is speech "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action". Other non-protected speech would be false statements of fact, fighting words, offensive speech and threats.
  12. Jan 4, 2013 #32 of 201

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009
    That would pretty much take Fox News off the air if enforced.
  13. Jan 4, 2013 #33 of 201

    pablo Icon

    Oct 11, 2007
    Don't understand the uproar over the potential appearance (finally) of AJE on DirecTV. I've been waiting for it for a while. It's a great, informative, well-produced channel. In over a year of watching it online, I am yet to notice even a tiny bit of anti-Americanism or some other bias or propaganda. It's pure news, as it should be. Not opinions and inane discussions about the same three topics over and over. The channel covers a wide variety of stories, a lot of which are never covered by mainstream news. As someone who's curious about current events outside the United States, I cannot wait for AJE to be added. I'll certainly watch it more than CNN. In a global world, which is increasingly becoming more and more global, you need a wider perspective. Pierce Morgan interviewing some pop star in prime time is not my idea of a news channel, especially with numerous ongoing armed conflicts throughout the world.
  14. Jan 4, 2013 #34 of 201

    pdxBeav Godfather

    Jul 5, 2007
    I agree! I'm mad as hell over this move. I can't believe they would allow the biased Al Jazeera network any airtime. I feel very threatened by this. I'm going to cancel and go back to watching Fox news to get real news!!! :rolleyes:
  15. Jan 4, 2013 #35 of 201

    APB101 Icon

    Sep 1, 2010
    I want DirecTV to carry Al Jazeera America.

    I have the attitude "the more the merrier" and have felt this way since I signed up for service back in 1998. In that period, my area cable provider, Comcast, only carried CNN, Headline News, CNBC, The Weather Channel, and C-Spans 1 and 2 in a basic-cable lineup that was a couple years shy of transforming into a digital three-digit-numbers lineup. (This, obviously, was before HD. Court TV, which we now recognize as truTV, still existed and was in the category of news.)

    When I came to DirecTV, in existence were those same programmers as well as MSNBC, Fox News Channel, and Newsworld International. (Current TV was the rebranding of NWI after the purchase and transition were complete in 2005.) My joining DirecTV as a subscriber in 1998 came before CNBC World. It was before Fox Business Network. And, in this period, there were also CNNFN/CNNI (Financial News and International) and CNNSI (Sports Illustrated) in the lineup.

    I appreciate that we also have Free Speech TV and Link TV. And for any that I haven't named, but should, I appreciate having this expansion of news/information programming that gives us such resources to stay as much aware as we want to be. It's good to have that. And I would also encourage DirecTV to bring in both ABC News Now and C-Span 3. (And anything else that I'm not thinking of, for the moment, which pertains to this category of news/information programming.)

    For anyone not wanting Al Jazeera, I respectfully state that I do not want and will not welcome anyone telling me what I can and cannot view on television while living here in the U.S.
  16. Jan 4, 2013 #36 of 201

    daisydog6 New Member

    Jun 11, 2009
    Scanning the guide once last year, saw that Current was running a 1-hour Al Jazeera news show. Huh, let's see what this is all about. Their news feature was tired, grainy old footage of police pounding demonstrators at the Chicago Democratic convention.

  17. Jan 4, 2013 #37 of 201

    lokar Icon

    Oct 7, 2006
    I agree with APB101, I have never seen Al Jazeera but will check it out on D*. It would be nice to have an actual news channel again. True story from when the Egypt riots were going last year: On a Sunday evening I tried to go to a news channel to see what was going on.

    CNN Headline News: News personalities bantering about some fluff non news issue.
    MSNBC: Talking heads show that was obviously a rerun.
    Fox News: Same.
    CNN: Saw live report with Anderson Cooper from Egypt.

    Nobody seems to have noticed but with all the news channels we have on TV, most of them are opinionated talk shows that don't do straight news very often, if at all. I heard AJE covered the Third Party Presidential debates which IMO makes them more American than all the other news channels by default.
  18. Jan 4, 2013 #38 of 201

    Henry Retired Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Pine, CO
    Rush said yesterday to imagine Joy Behar in a burqa ... uh ... no thanks, I have a full stomach.
  19. Jan 4, 2013 #39 of 201

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    I have yet to see anyone who is opposed to this offer a reason why.
  20. Jan 4, 2013 #40 of 201
    Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    RT is as anti-American and AlJaz, yet nobody threatened to drop Dish over RT (at least nobody posted that they were dropping over the carriage).

    What if AlJas was carried virtually everywhere, would you drop all pay TV services and go with just OTA?

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