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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Spike, Sep 8, 2011.
It ain't directv. It is AMC.
That's correct. Rainbow is basically sending out 4 HD channels in the space needed for 2, causing horrible compression. Just wait until The Killing comes back on. All those night scenes are just brutal.
While AMC's PQ isn't the best of HD, I was on Dish when The Killing was on and didn't notice that it was bad. In fact, I thought it pretty good for AMC.
Not disagreeing, and in fact it is a good explanation, but how do you know this?
I'm a FiOS customer, and it was noticed by customers that the Rainbow PQ started to go downhill... badly. Verizon came out and said that they noticed that Rainbow was feeding them all 4 HD channels in one QAM slot (normally, when you're running mpeg-2, you want to do no more than 2 HD channels per QAM slot). That's the way Rainbow feeds their channels to everyone. There was much discussion about this on dslreports when Rainbow made that move.
BTW, for those interested, here's a link to the thread I'm talking about:
while the thread is specific to FiOS, the issue in question (over compression by Rainbow) isn't.
Thanks for the info, jpl!
Indeed. Quick and right on target. But, geez, it took you five minutes to get that out! What took so long???
Since AMC was upgraded to HD a few weeks ago I've started checking out their schedule more often and since FMC and TCM are right next door I've looked at those movie lineups as well. Other than AMC's original programming, I've found the offerings on Fox and Turner much more interesting than what AMC has been offering in the last few weeks.
FMC and TCM still have lots of "classics/oldies" on their schedules while AMC has shifted to more recent fare. The more recent movies probably get better ratings, but some of those movies have been on TV a million times.
Yep, FMC and TMC are more interesting with their movie selections. And surprisingly, their SD video isn't bad at all.
Well I know Turner purchased libraries of old movie from the studios. FOX has their old library. Don't know where AMC got theirs.
Crackerjack boxes. (just kidding of course)
Maybe the pq will improve over time.
Yes, because quality is one of those things that improve over time.
They are fat dumb and happy. They are riding the wave of a few successful programs and leaving the rest in the dumping ground. They do not care about PQ.
Well you guys are right, it's AMC/Rainbow for sure. I can't believe they thought they'd get away with such extreme compression resulting in being right on the edge of loss-of-sync. I bought a few 720p Mad Men eps off Amazon a while back, and they were VASTLY superior to the PQ AMC is putting out now in supposed 1080i. At least on Mad Men
The picture is sadly lacking in detail/resolution, dynamics/contrast, and especially frame rate which is variable depending on content. Same classic frame rate issues you see on a low-bandwidth HD vid on YouTube. Frame rates plunging down to 12-15fps for just a second or two, and if you look at a speaker's lips during that drop, you'll note that it starts to look like an out-of-sync syndrome. Then it pops back a second or two later.
That is so lame and cheesy. Has to be the worst delivery of so-called HD content ever! I shudder to think what the ACTUAL de-facto screen resolution of the content is. Of course my TV cheerily reports "1080i". Not even close, folks. Not even in the same area code. AMC is breaking...badly.
I wasn't making it up when I looked at SD of AMC and HD and declared that decent SD (Fios) of AMC is almost as good as HD from anybody.
DirecTV could have just increased the SD quality and not bothered with the HD channel but then the AMC fan(boy)s would complain not knowing what they were really asking for.
Yeah AMC's master feed is on Galaxy 14 (125 W) transponder 2.
I wouldn't be surprised if DirecTV is able to pick up Fuse, We and IFC in HD as well despite the bandwidth crunch because there's some bandwidth savings thanks to AMC Networks compression techniques.
Still AMC HD looks way better than it used to. Overcompressed HD > Overcompressed SD. Is it perfect? No... is it better than it was? Yes.
Glass half full. I agree. I'd love to see Fuse and IFC in HD.
Apparently AMC is sending out the content at an 8.76 Mbps average bitrate. Yikes, there's your culprit.
Just noticed the video is choppy and the audio is way out of sync on AMC HD. They are currently broadcasting "Rooster Cogburn". Anybody else experiencing this?
Yep....seeing the same thing.