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American Idol (Top 5) - 05/02/2012

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Alan Gordon, May 2, 2012.

Who were YOUR favorites tonight?!

  1. Hollie Cavanagh

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  2. Jessica Sanchez

    80.0%
  3. Joshua Ledet

    52.0%
  4. Phillip Phillips

    44.0%
  5. Skylar Laine

    16.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Alan Gordon

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    I thought there were four... :confused: I was not aware that Joshua and Phillip were holograms. I hope they're alright in real life. :)

    WTH?!

    I admit she has struggled on some of the uptempo numbers, but still... WTH?!

    For piece of mind... who do you think would be in the Top 4 if Simon were still there?

    You're idea of "nuts" is my idea of "acurate."

    I love Steven, but I can't disagree with you on that statement! :lol:

    As for your statement on Randy:

    I'm not sure why you think it's Randy and not J.Lo herself. :confused:

    As I stated in my previous post, Randy has stated he didn't even believe Joshua would make it to the Top 3. He thought it was possible he could move past Skyler into the Top 3, but apparently, his money was on Skylar.

    I think it comes down to personal tastes. When I hear the judges fawning over Joshua, I feel it's usually deserved. By that same token, the judges have repeatedly gushed over Colton and Skylar when I felt they didn't deserve it, and was too rough on Hollie when I felt she didn't.

    As for the lobbyists comment... you're not wrong, but I think pretty much all talent shows are that way.... certainly "The X-Factor" and "The Voice." At least AI has shown that it's needed!

    ~Alan
     
  2. Richard

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    :confused:How do Joshua and Jessica keep surviving ??????:confused: If not for the stupid Judges, we would have been rid of Jessica weeks ago.

    Randy is the only true judge, Jennifer and Steven are just there to publicize themselves and their products. But, Randy is a biased judge, he will praise the ones he likes whether they were actually good or not. They should get rid of both Steven and Jennifer and go back to using non-performers as judges. Jimmy could become a judge, he really acts like a 4th judge now, though his comments aren't shown until after everyone has voted.

    I'm pretty much done with this season anyway, no one really stands out. I wouldn't buy any music from any of the remaining contestants.

    Probably Phillip and Joshua in the finale with Phillip being the winner, Jessica should go home next week. It should really be Phillip and Hollie in the finale, but no way that will happen with how voting has been going this year.
     
  3. waynebtx

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    It should have been Phillip Phillips going home last night.
     
  4. Maruuk

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    Jessica has all the performance skills of a Mary K. Blige or a Beyonce, or a Whitney in her prime. At age 16. She is a performance PHENOMENON. And that is completely separate from her astonishing vocal powers. She just has the instincts, and they are rare indeed.

    Hollie has none of those instincts, which is what leaves her at the bottom every week. Nice voice though.

    PP is a smirking moron who discovered at some point he could clone Dave Mathews and has clung to that aping of his mentor throughout the competition. How many Elvis impersonators end up as stars? Then imagine if you aim 40 rungs lower for your impersonation target.

    If I was a gay man who really wanted to watch some guy mincing around on the stage with obvious gay mannerisms cloning Otis Redding, I would LOVE Joshua. I'd buy all his records. NTTAWWT. More power to him, that's a beautiful thing. Seriously. I don't happen to be, but 10% of men are, so that speaks well for Joshua's future. More power to him. Go for it baby! LGBT Power!
     
  5. Doug Brott

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    Eh, not perfect, but dang if that wasn't close ..

    From 3/14:
     
  6. hdtvfan0001

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    3 judges, not contestants.

    If Phillip was a hologram, most folks might not notice. :D
    At this point, the top 3 would probably be Colton, Jessica, and Hollie, with Skylar as a "plan B' in lieu of Colton. Simon was a stickler for singing skills, but he did appreciate the kind of "performance" intangibles Colton or Skylar brought to the table to help sell records. Joshua might not have made the top 12 with Simon there.
    I've actually increased my liking slightly of Steven, but let's face it...he's not "all there" every week. :lol:
    That drastically changed about 5 weeks ago, when he indicated Joshua was "here to win it all"...and hasn't been swaying from his infatuation with Joshua ever since no matter how well he actually does each week.
    I'd agree with you that it comes down to taste. Unfortunately, we're out of barf bags here for when Joshua attempts to sing...so.... :D:lol:
    You had me in agreement until that last sentence. This year has been very different...in that having the judges say who's great and who's "in trouble" on a weekly basis, and then even to expound on it each time is not something we've seen much until this season - and sometimes - like JaLo's lame comment about Joshua being the best singer she's heard in the past 50 years - has gotten over-the-top bizarre. Really, to anyone I speak to, he's not even the best singer on that show right now, let alone 50 years...really...I wonder how Carrie Underwood might feel about that comparison - they should have asked her last night to see how she'd reply....or perhaps 100 other "real" singers better than he is...
     
  7. TheRatPatrol

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    Jimmy and Nigel should be the other two judges.
     
  8. Alan Gordon

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    You stated that Jessica and Hollie were the only "real" singers. They're all "real" singers.... some are just better than others.

    I won't say that Colton wouldn't have made the Top 3, but I doubt it would have anything to do with Simon's opinion of him, but rather maybe Simon's opinion of others that might have catapulted Colton further. I did miss Simon's comments when Colton came up though, as I really wanted one of the judge's to call Colton out on his "overindulgent emo messes."

    Simon does not like Country like Steven and Randy, and while I expect Simon would have appreciated Skylar's instant fan base, I believe that he would have been harder on her than the current judges.

    I think Simon would have called out Joshua on his more overindulgent performances myself, but I think you're fooling yourself if you believe he would not have made the Top 13 (or Top 12).

    I may agree with Phillip not being in the Top 4, but I don't believe Hollie would be there either.


    You do realize that Randy has said that (or something similar) about a good portion of the contestants... he does that every year.

    BTW, it was LAST MONDAY that he stated who he felt the Top 3 would be!

    I needed something to keep me awake the majority of times Colton and Skylar sang, so yeah, it comes down to taste!


    I agree that the judges comments at the end are a bad idea. They have done similar in the past, but never as front and center as this year. I think it may have been added this year in response to Pia's exit last year, and in all fairness, I think ALL of the contestants have been praised once or twice, so there's at least that.

    Again, it all comes down to who you speak to. While I prefer Jessica over Joshua, I do feel he's the second most talented on the show, and while I don't think he's THE most talented singer in 50 years, I think he's possibly one of many of the best singers in 50 years, and as much as I love Carrie Underwood, I think he's more vocally gifted than she is.

    ~Alan
     
  9. Alan Gordon

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    I'd LOVE for Jimmy to be a fourth judge. I'm not sure about Nigel...

    They'd beat Britney Spears and Demi Lovato any day of the week... :rolleyes:

    ~Alan
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

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    From a Thesaurus perspective you are correct. ;)
    That's why I used the words "might not". He'd be on the bubble.
    OK...now we've both come to center circle more and more on the same page. Very nice...really. Specific singers will indeed be a matter of taste, and that will never change. Agree, agree, agree.

    But between the virtually routine standing ovations for Joshua...no matter what he does (including one time that Jimmy pointed out the judges saw things totally wrong about him, and in another case where he almost picked up JaLo to stand with him)...as well as super-salesman lobbyist comments at every turn...that love affair is obsessively obvious each week now.

    Maybe if I could just hear Joshua accidental belch in the middle of one of his numbers....and make the audience crack up...I could get on board with some of it...but it's simply too blatantly obvious Randy has bet the farm on him to the point that even if he would like to change that view... he doesn't want to lose the farm. JaLo would call it the best belch she's heard the past 50 years and Randy would belch and say Joshua can belch better than even he can.
     
  11. Alan Gordon

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    Garth Brooks... a fairly successful singer once made a comment that stuck with me... and not knowing the exact quote, you'll forgive me for paraphrasing, but he said something along the lines of:

    Again, that's paraphrasing, but I think you can get the point.

    The music industry is filled with singers throughout history who don't have beautiful perfect voices. The 60's... a theme of this week was filled with them... people like Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, etc., yet all have contributed to the history of music.

    Juliet Simms (a contestant on "The Voice" this year) who has far from a perfect voice performed "It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World" this week and blew James Brown out of the water, yet James Brown is the "Godfather of Soul."

    To make things even more confusing, vocal prowess does not equate sales. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Kellie Pickler been more successful in the music business than Katharine McPhee?!

    I believe he'd be in the Top 6... not sure beyond that.

    I think they've been a little too excited about him before (I've felt the same thing with Colton, Skylar, and even Phillip), however in the case of Joshua, I feel that can be excused given his talent.

    You're an odd duck... LOL!! ;) :D

    ~Alan
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    OK...I'll compromise at meet you at that middle point. :D
    At times....yup. But I made a pretty colorful point there - :goofygrin
     
  13. Alan Gordon

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    Stinky anyway... :grin:

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  14. hdtvfan0001

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    <BELCH> :D
     
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    When even JIMMY is commenting on the judges' sickening pandering and slavish sycophancy, you know it's bad.

    He and Ryan are the only ones left with any shred of credibility.

    When Tyler said "this was the best final five EVER" you knew he was just repeating what the producers told him to say verbatim. I'd like to vote the judges off next week. They are clearly the weakest talent in the competition.
     
  16. Alan Gordon

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    Uhhh... pretty much everyone I know has been saying that, including myself.

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    My comments in Brown:

     
  18. Alan Gordon

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    I started to name Joe Cocker, but I like Tina's voice. I understand your point, but I wouldn't have included her. I did sort of include JB in the Juliet section though...

    Not to mention an auto-tuned Dianna Agron... :D

    McPhee has had more success in acting than singing, but she's an infinately superior singer than Pickler. Don't get me wrong, I like some of Pickler's stuff, but if you had told me in Season Five that Pickler would be a more successful singer than McPhee, I wouldn't have believed it.

    I'm not sure how the "Smash" singles have done on iTunes, nor this week's Soundtrack, but as a solo artist, I do believe that Pickler is more successful.

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  19. Henry

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    I don't care for Tina, her voice, or her music.

    I didn't pay too much attention to Brown. I lived in Augusta, GA (where he lived) and the papers there were always talking about him getting drunk and hitting people. But his house was always decorated to the 9's during xmas.

    I think you're right about Pickler. I like her and McPhee.

    Not sure I've ever heard Dianna Agron.
     
  20. Alan Gordon

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    To each their own... I enjoy a lot of her stuff from the 80s... of course, I kind of grew up listening to her stuff on the radio, so I'm a little biased! :D

    Been there...

    I like some of his stuff, but I'm not a fan...

    She's an actress (born in Savannah, GA I might add since we're talking about Eastern Georgia cities) on "Glee." She did a memorable performance back in season one with a bunch of pregnant teenagers dancing behind her...

    She had a little electronic "help" on the song so it was nothing compared to Juliet Simm's performance on "The Voice" this week, but I'd still listen to DA's version before Mr. Brown's.

    ~Alan
     

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