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American Idol (Top 7) - 04/11/2012

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Steve, Apr 11, 2012.

Who were YOUR favorites tonite?

  1. Skylar Laine

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Colton Dixon

    10 vote(s)
    41.7%
  3. Jessica Sanchez

    10 vote(s)
    41.7%
  4. Joshua Ledet

    14 vote(s)
    58.3%
  5. Hollie Cavanagh

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  6. Phillip Phillips, Jr.

    8 vote(s)
    33.3%
  7. Elise Testone

    7 vote(s)
    29.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    As we all know...that has happened before.

    Some past AI "winners" have been record-selling flops, while others have done exteremely well. The same could be said for folks in the top 3 in the past...so there are actually multiple winners the way this "contest" rolls out.

    I would not be surprised to see 4-5 people from this year's crop of top 10 getting some kind of record deal.

    The only thing that seems disturbing is when Randy or JLO have agendas to "promote" their personal favorites week in and week out, despite not necessarily being the top talent. The show seems to be evolving in some ways from a singing talent and popularity contest to only a popularity contest.
     
  2. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    Both Missy and I agreed that last nights save was scripted and the reported results were false. This was done to create drama. Ryan Seacrest even tweeted “there is a result tonight on @AmericanIdol that some would say is very shocking”.
    Jessica's very feeble, half hearted and squeaking attempt to perform her save was the cue for J-LO to run up on stage and do her emoting. Even Steve T. announced that the save card will be used before the loser was announced.
    This was all planned.
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    That would not be entirely surprising, as the "shocker" elimination shows have happened in the past.
     
  4. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

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    I watched the performance show and result show back to back so I'm late to the discussion, but I though Colton and Elise were the winners on performance night, thought Hollie was great, and agree that Jessica was not up to her own standards.

    I was really surprised that Elise, Jessica, and Joshua were in the bottom three on the results show, and perhaps Jessica and Joshua being in the B3 was what Ryan alluded to in his tweet? I'm positive Jessica was never in the B3 before, but I'm not sure about Joshua.

    When the final result came and it was Jessica, I was even MORE surprised, but I guess this is probably due to complacency by the voters: Jessica is praised so much, everyone probably thinks she's safe, so no one votes for her because they think everyone else is voting for her.

    I was definitely NOT surprised that the save was used. I expected it to be used as soon as Joshua, Elise and Jessica were named the B3. I could also see the save being used for Colton and Phillip, but I'm not sure if the judges would have used it for Skylar, and for sure they would not have used it for Hollie.

    This means next week two performers go home, right? So it will be a critical performance night next week, dropping from seven to the top five in one night...
     
  5. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    I wasn't surprised that the save was used, I think this was the last show it could be used. Use it or lose it. Another reason I believe this was a setup. Even if it wasn't, no matter who lost, the save would have been used.
     
  6. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Next week is the last week...but that really is not a big point.

    With this group of judges...showing their views on their own "pet" favorites repeatedly...the save was very likely going to get used this week or next.
     
  7. Steve

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    I don't think it would have been used for Hollie. Steven made that pretty clear with his comments after her performance Wednesday night. I didn't agree with what he had to say, but if he really felt that way, no way he was going to save her, IMO. I also thought Phillip's and Skylar's chances at being saved may have been 50/50.

    EDITED TO ADD: Now that I think about it, ironically, Steven may have saved Hollie for another week because of his comments Wednesday night. She got the sympathy vote. :p

    I was also surprised Jimmy was so tough on Hollie's performance last night. I didn't expect him to pile on like that.
     
  8. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree with all your observations in this post Steve.
     
  9. Doug Brott

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    I haven't looked anywhere to get info, but I suspect next week is a single elimination as the "double" will be Jermaine who got booted earlier in the season. Could be wrong I guess, but I don't think Fox/AI want to give up 3 hours of ad time during sweeps
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    I got the sense that Jimmy was saying he thought he could "fix" her .. meaning singing is not the problem, it's the other performance stuff.
     
  11. Steve

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    I agree he wasn't criticizing her singing. I just didn't think she deserved as much performance criticism as she got, especially given how much undue (IMO) performance praise Jessica got after Wednesday night's performance. I thought Hollie was much more "natural" this week than last. I guess Jimmy and Steven felt otherwise.
     
  12. Steve

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    All this talk about Jessica reminded me of Alison Iraheta, another 16-17 year old from season 8. I went back and listened to a couple of her performances, and I like her better than Jessica. She made it to the final 4, IIRC.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_GgEvP2mo

    Her duet with Adam Lambert is still my favorite Idol duet to date. I've only been watching since season 5, however.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiS26RXQo-A
     
  13. sigma1914

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    You keep mentioning pets, favorites & agendas. This happens every season and is nothing new. Simon was the worst offender of this.
     
  14. Doug Brott

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    Absolutely .. There is always an agenda with these Judges. It's just part of the show.
     
  15. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    Quite true.

    It's just more blatent, obvious, and intrusive this year.
     
  16. Henry

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    And that was a "Pia Moment", folks. The only surprise was that it came while the SAVE was still unused. There is no telling how many more we'll see.

    Now that they have forced the judges hands, I suspect we'll see teenyboppers voting with their groins and not their heads until the end of the season.
     
  17. Alan Gordon

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    The "save" was created so that when America either becomes complacent, or gets one wrong, the judges can save them. Daughtry was the reason the "save" was created, and the judges used the save on some people who simply didn't deserve it, but I think the judges (well, at least Randy and Steven considering Jennifer wanted to use it on Heejun and DeAndre) learned their lesson.


    Some people do well with their "save me" song, others let their emotions and nerves get to them. I didn't think it was bad per se, but it was a poor job for her. I disagree that the judges saved her to keep her from singing. I think it was simply a case where there was no need to continue to put her through the emotional wringer when they would have been complete fools to let her leave.

    Most likely... she'll be safe next week regardless of her song choice. Last night will rally her fan base.

    Will Hollie go home next, or will it be Skylar, Elise, or Joshua?! :confused:

    There's usually hints in advance... but without the knowledge beforehand, it can be difficult to discern what's real, or what's a fake-out.

    ~Alan
     
  18. Alan Gordon

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    As evidenced by Jessica, Joshua, and Elise being in the Bottom Three last night... :(

    I gave Jessica and Joshua 100% chance of being saved if they were in the Bottom Three, and Elise 50%/50%. Steven Tyler later said that when he saw the Bottom Three, he knew they'd be using the save regardless of which one it was.

    Yeah, Ryan said there would be shocking results the day of Pia's elimination last year as well.

    Nigel stated that the voting on Wednesday night was interesting after stating he felt the judges were too hard on Hollie.

    I strongly disagree that it was staged/planned. It's been obvious for several years now... particularly last year when Howdy Doodie won.

    ~Alan
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    I suspect you are 98% right on target with that all Alan.

    Both how Pia and Daughtry were prematurely ousted likely contributed to where things are today. I commend the producers to come up with that solution.

    It's the actual choice made by the judges that people will debate. I suspect it's much tougher this year where a clear-cut favorite (or even two) have not yet emerged this late in the competition among a longer list of talented final 7 than in the past.

    There are times it is easy to forget we have a number of sub 18 year olds and other very young competitors on this list - alot of talent in this group.
     
  20. Steve

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    I'm pretty sure Ryan knows the exact results beforehand, so he and the director can script/orchestrate/rehearse the "building the bottom three" parts of the show.
     

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