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  • Adam Lambert

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  • Allison Iraheta

    Votes: 44 69.8%
  • Anoop Desai

    Votes: 33 52.4%
  • Danny Gokey

    Votes: 7 11.1%
  • Kris Allen

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  • Lil Rounds

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  • Matt Giraud

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American Idol (Top 7 - redux)

6K views 152 replies 25 participants last post by  peak_reception 
#1 ·
Well we get to do it all over again .. with Disco no less :)

Don't forget to pad those recordings. We went over last week with only 2 Judges per contestant and I'm not sure they are going to do that again. It's currently scheduled for 61 minutes and I wouldn't be shocked to see 65 or more minutes.
 
#52 ·
Doug Brott said:
Allison in the Bottom 3 .. Hmmm ..

Well, Anoop is gone and I'll miss the guy, but it was pretty clear from the folks here that I'm in the minority. I'm very surprised that Matt was not in the bottom three, though.

So now we're down to 5 .. Matt is clearly the worst of what's left .. I'm gonna guess that Kris and Allison will be the other two in the bottom three, but it certainly could be Danny instead of one of those two.
I voted for Matt about 100 times last night. Im pulling for him to go further. Dont know if he can win it but I am gonna do my part. I also like Adam but not really a Danny fan. Allison is good but not as good as Adam or Matt in my opinion lol.
 
#54 ·
joshjr said:
I voted for Matt about 100 times last night.
As you've mentioned in this thread (and every other Idol thread) already. I can't see actually picking up the phone and voting once, but 100 times? Not to be rude or anything, but how old are you?
 
#55 ·
It was surprising that Matt wasn't voted out, but I'm sure last week was a wake-up call to his fans and they rallied to keep him around.

So here's my new ranking:

(Adam | Kris) > Allison > Danny > Matt

I just really don't like Danny's voice or singing styles.
 
#56 ·
BattleScott said:
The dialers are used by everone, not just VFTW. Sanjya actually had quite a vocal following, especially the "younger female" audience. I don't think that VFTW had much if anything to do with him staying around longer that he should have. Rememeber everyone has fans, Kelly Pickler was once VFTW endorsed as well.
I agree. The VFTW effect is overrated. Sanijya lasted as long as he did because he kept on finding ways to entertain the audience (In a way, he was like Adam without the talent.), not because a few hundred or thousand people can't figure out a better way to waste their time than "sabotage" a reality show.

HDG said:
And I think I owe an apology to Allison. It's not smugness or arrogance that I'm detecting: I think it's melancholy.

If my math holds water and that illusive something is indeed falling into place, she was 13 when she won Telemundo's Quinceanera competition. She's now 16 (17 on Apr 27 - Happy Birthday, Sweetie!) and is by all accounts a major force on AI-8. This girl hasn't had the time to grow up, much less deal with super-stardom.

Is it me, or does anyone else smell a stage-mom or dad or aunt or uncle - you know; that lower lifeform still legally able to circumvent child labor laws?

Is her maturity borne of talent ... or parental pressure? Are her similarities in character to David A. coincidental or part of a pattern?

I no longer dislike her as much as I worry for her.

Of course, this is but a theory, subject to change. :)
As I said in the last thread, I don't think your dislike for Allison needs an explanation. Musical tastes are musical tastes. Unless it's has something to do with some outside bias that has nothing to do with the music/performer, there's really nothing wrong with liking/disliking music/performers others dislike/like. However, since you seem to be soul searching on the Allison topic, have you considered that your problem with Allison lies not with her personality but with your own? Smugness and melancholy seem kinda to be polar opposite and I have seen no real examples of either.

I agree that the one packaged piece about her mom wanting her to be a singer made me uncomfortable, but I've seen no evidence, personality-wise, that it has had a negative affect on her. There's been no horror stories like the ones that followed Archuleta's father throughout last year's competition. (Wasn't he eventually banned from being backstage?) Allison seems to get along great with the other contestants and is joking around with Ryan after the judges' verdict. Personality-wise, I don't view her so much as mature (forced or not) as a typical sarcastic teenager. The only thing melancholy about her might be her singing, which like a lot of decent rock vocalists, is rooted in the blues, which certainly has a melancholy strain.

With all that said, and though, in my opinion, she has the best shot of producing a record I would listen to, I don't think she has a chance in hell of winning the competition. I don't think she's yet done the kind of commanding performance, like Adam has several times, that blows the doors of the place. Her obvious talent has been consistent, but doesn't produce those "water cooler" moments.
 
#57 ·
I think the fact that 45 million voted last night neutralized the VFTW effect. The 10 million extra votes were probably "legit" and from fans who up until now weren't voting (or weren't voting multiple times).

I was happy to see the way they handled the Lil elimination right up front and in a classy manner. I was surprised to see Anoop go and not Matt, but I think at this point it's probably a given that Adam's gonna win, so what difference does it make what order the others fall by the wayside? :)

That said, I was mildly surprised to see Allison in the bottom three. I wonder if "looks" aren't now coming into play? E.g., what if Adam and Allison are the "blue state" picks, and Kris and Danny the "red state" picks? If that logic holds up, I would expect to see an Adam vs. Kris or Danny finale, even though I'd personally like to see an Adam vs. Allison finale. :)

Just my .02. /steve
 
#58 ·
Yea Lil is gone i also was very suprised to see Allison in the bottom three
 
#59 ·
Allison should inherit Lil's fans, Kris should inherit Anoop's fans. I'm guessing Matt will be the VFTW pick too. Based upon all of this, I predict Adam goes home next week. All of his songs sound the same. His high pitch scream (that he feels "adds" to a song) is a joke. Sure, Adam would rule on a Vegas showroom floor. He will not rule the record charts. If I'm a record executive, Kris is the only marketable contestant. All the others are AI fluff.
 
#60 ·
I am hoping for an Adam vs. Kris final. I one point I had Kris as the black horse, but that guy has been gaining momentum with each week and I think he now has a legit shot at the finals if he keeps it going.
 
#61 ·
Hutchinshouse said:
Allison should inherit Lil's fans, Kris should inherit Anoop's fans. I'm guessing Matt will be the VFTW pick too. Based upon all of this, I predict Adam goes home next week. All of his songs sound the same. His high pitch scream (that he feels "adds" to a song) is a joke. Sure, Adam would rule on a Vegas showroom floor. He will not rule the record charts. If I'm a record executive, Kris is the only marketable contestant. All the others are AI fluff.
Totally disagree on the All Adam's songs sound the same. He by far as been the most unique week on and week out in my opinion with Kris 2nd in terms of showing versatility. I take you up on that bet... If you win I will state you rock and rule in my signature for a week and if I win you will do the same in yours. ;) Oh.. and we also have to admit how off we were with our music taste. Bet?

As for marketable... That is a hard one... I would have said that about Kelly Pickler and Bucky. The bottom line is you don't know until they release their albums. Been a while since I bought an AI album.. (Daughtry was my last).

All depends on how good the albums are that each of the final group releases and their timing of releasing the album. I personally plan on checking out all the final 5 albums if they produce them but my guess is only Adam and Kris would land up in my iPod.
 
#62 ·
I like Kris's persona a lot, but honestly haven't found anything he's sung so far "memorable". He's not a Daughtry, IMHO. I'm not even sure he's a Blake Lewis.

OTOH, I think Allison is this year's Daughtry. Even if she's voted-off next week or the week after, she'll have no problem finding a following.

RE: Adam. The boy has the most natural talent of the bunch, IMO. That said, I'm not sure how much of a living you can make simply singing interesting arrangements of other people's songs to start a career. That may be why we hadn't heard of him up to now, in spite of the professional exposure he's already had.

With any of these kids that are left, their voices or stage presence are probably no longer an issue at this point... future success will boil down to how much songwriting talent they have, or their skill in picking others to write songs for them. My .02. /steve
 
#63 ·
Ron Barry said:
Totally disagree on the All Adam's songs sound the same. He by far as been the most unique week on and week out in my opinion with Kris 2nd in terms of showing versatility. I take you up on that bet... If you win I will state you rock and rule in my signature for a week and if I win you will do the same in yours. ;) Oh.. and we also have to admit how off we were with our music taste. Bet?

As for marketable... That is a hard one... I would have said that about Kelly Pickler and Bucky. The bottom line is you don't know until they release their albums. Been a while since I bought an AI album.. (Daughtry was my last).

All depends on how good the albums are that each of the final group releases and their timing of releasing the album. I personally plan on checking out all the final 5 albums if they produce them but my guess is only Adam and Kris would land up in my iPod.
Well, that would be a silly bet on my part. I'd have a 20% chance for winning. You'd have a 80% chance of winning. I'm simply expressing my opinion.

As for taste in music, I like it all: Eagles, Bee Gees, Collective Soul, Sugarland, Godsmack, Usher, Styx, Kiss, Matchbox Twenty, Black Eyed Peas, America, Elvis, Josh Groban, Barry Manilow, all disco etc, etc, etc. My point is, I like all kinds of music, yet I still dislike Adam's persona. AI is not about finding the next Broadway star. That is why Clay Aiken lost season 2.
 
#65 ·
Steve said:
RE: Adam. The boy has the most natural talent of the bunch, IMO. That said, I'm not sure how much of a living you can make simply singing interesting arrangements of other people's songs to start a career. That may be why we hadn't heard of him up to now, in spite of the professional exposure he's already had.
Clearly Adam knows how to perform and he's done a fabulous job of getting songs arranged to make him sound even better. There have been many performers that have songwriters put something together for them, so if Adam has trouble in creating songs .. I'm sure a team of him and someone else will create some very memorable performances.

Adam should do very, very well in the business. I don't think he will be as big as Daughtry or Underwood, but he shouldn't be that far behind.
 
#66 ·
Darn... Was hoping fora bet. ;)

True... and Clay Aiken is currently #3 in Album sales next to Carrie and Kelly and well above Ruben. I am sure Daugherty will pass him up but still pretty successful for a Broadway voice.

In my opinion strong powerful vocals like Adam and Clay can be marketed successfully if good quality songs are chosen. Actually in terms of AI contestents and their success comes down to song selection again. I was a big Fantasia fan but the CDs she made did not appeal to me. I recently took a listen to Melinda Dolittles album that I was looking forward to and found that one to be not to my liking. On the other hand Bucky and Kellie obviously found a few right songs and it has allowed them to be somewhat successful.

To me.. AI is not about finding the next best talent. If it was Taylor Hicks would not have won and David A would not have reached where he did. All the people in the top 5 should have a shot.. The question is what one will take that shot and make an album that when people hear go.. I like that and I want to hear more.

Adam has the vocals and if given the right music in my opinion can produce such an album. If given the wrong.. He will bomb just like Bo did. My tastes like your vary and include a lot of musical type stuff like Phantom, Rent, etc. Also was a big Kiss, Queen fan. Billy Joel, Josh Groban also is big in my book. Tayler Hicks ruined "In the Ghetto" for me and I had to listen to Elvis's version multiple times to get that horriable randition out of my head.

I enjoy a powerful controlled voice and perhaps that is why I liked Clay's music and am an Adam fan (From first hearing his voice). Time will tell and it comes down to the album.. Still thing Kris and Adam have the best shots afterwords.

Like I said in a earlier thread. Music taste is subjective and in the end the marketplace will decide.
 
#67 ·
HDG said:
And I think I owe an apology to Allison. It's not smugness or arrogance that I'm detecting: I think it's melancholy.

[...blah, blah, blah...]

Of course, this is but a theory, subject to change. :)
"QuickDrop" said:
As I said in the last thread, I don't think your dislike for Allison needs an explanation. Musical tastes are musical tastes. Unless it's has something to do with some outside bias that has nothing to do with the music/performer, there's really nothing wrong with liking/disliking music/performers others dislike/like. However, since you seem to be soul searching on the Allison topic, have you considered that your problem with Allison lies not with her personality but with your own? Smugness and melancholy seem kinda to be polar opposite and I have seen no real examples of either.

I agree that the one packaged piece about her mom wanting her to be a singer made me uncomfortable, but I've seen no evidence, personality-wise, that it has had a negative affect on her. There's been no horror stories like the ones that followed Archuleta's father throughout last year's competition. (Wasn't he eventually banned from being backstage?) Allison seems to get along great with the other contestants and is joking around with Ryan after the judges' verdict. Personality-wise, I don't view her so much as mature (forced or not) as a typical sarcastic teenager. The only thing melancholy about her might be her singing, which like a lot of decent rock vocalists, is rooted in the blues, which certainly has a melancholy strain.

With all that said, and though, in my opinion, she has the best shot of producing a record I would listen to, I don't think she has a chance in hell of winning the competition. I don't think she's yet done the kind of commanding performance, like Adam has several times, that blows the doors of the place. Her obvious talent has been consistent, but doesn't produce those "water cooler" moments.
Sorry if I struck a nerve, QuickDrop. It was just an opinion. I was being conversational, as most people here are. If I had known you'd take it personal, I would have resisted the temptation to discuss it.

And, yes, David A.'s dad was banned from the set late in the season.
 
#68 ·
Doug Brott said:
Adam should do very, very well in the business. I don't think he will be as big as Daughtry or Underwood, but he shouldn't be that far behind.
I could not agree more Doug. What Adam brings to the plate is something different, and not everyone likes "different".
 
#69 ·
machavez00 said:
Allison will sing "Take it or Leave it" (original song?)as her contestant's choice for the Top Three.
When I first heard that original song, it's what convinced me that Allison will have no problem making a nice little career for herself.

And even if she were somehow to go on to win, I doubt it would enhance her prospects any. I think she's already milked the Idol experience for all she needs to move on. Now it's up to her "management" to make the most of it. /steve
 
#70 ·
Drew2k said:
It was surprising that Matt wasn't voted out, but I'm sure last week was a wake-up call to his fans and they rallied to keep him around.

So here's my new ranking:

(Adam | Kris) > Allison > Danny > Matt

I just really don't like Danny's voice or singing styles.
Hmm...my rankings would be:

Allison > Kris > Danny > Adam > Matt

Oh...and I would have kept Anoop instead of Matt this week.
 
#72 ·
Doug Brott said:
Clearly Adam knows how to perform and he's done a fabulous job of getting songs arranged to make him sound even better. There have been many performers that have songwriters put something together for them, so if Adam has trouble in creating songs .. I'm sure a team of him and someone else will create some very memorable performances.

Adam should do very, very well in the business. I don't think he will be as big as Daughtry or Underwood, but he shouldn't be that far behind.
He will definitely do well in the short term, but he will be a "Pop Icon" not a long term musical presence. To stay successful in the long term, you have to excel in the repeat listener market. That is where Daughtry, Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson are positioned. They will continue to do well because their fans are fans of the genre first, then the artist. Adam's fans are attracted to the "bright light" not any particular musical genre. Once a new light comes around, he will quickly be forgotten.
 
#74 ·
BattleScott said:
He will definitely do well in the short term, but he will be a "Pop Icon" not a long term musical presence. To stay successful in the long term, you have to excel in the repeat listener market. That is where Daughtry, Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson are positioned. They will continue to do well because their fans are fans of the genre first, then the artist. Adam's fans are attracted to the "bright light" not any particular musical genre. Once a new light comes around, he will quickly be forgotten.
Tell that to Aerosmith .. :)
 
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