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American Idol (Top 7 - redux)

6K views 152 replies 25 participants last post by  peak_reception 
#1 ·
Well we get to do it all over again .. with Disco no less :)

Don't forget to pad those recordings. We went over last week with only 2 Judges per contestant and I'm not sure they are going to do that again. It's currently scheduled for 61 minutes and I wouldn't be shocked to see 65 or more minutes.
 
#77 ·
BattleScott said:
He will definitely do well in the short term, but he will be a "Pop Icon" not a long term musical presence. To stay successful in the long term, you have to excel in the repeat listener market. That is where Daughtry, Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson are positioned. They will continue to do well because their fans are fans of the genre first, then the artist. Adam's fans are attracted to the "bright light" not any particular musical genre. Once a new light comes around, he will quickly be forgotten.
You got a crystal ball or something? :grin:
 
#80 ·
HDG said:
Sorry if I struck a nerve, QuickDrop. It was just an opinion. I was being conversational, as most people here are. If I had known you'd take it personal, I would have resisted the temptation to discuss it.

And, yes, David A.'s dad was banned from the set late in the season.
Personally, I'm trying to figure out what I said in the quoted post that makes you think I took it "personal." All I did was disagree with what you wrote and explained (hopefully specifically) why I disagreed. I also, again, said that you have every right to your opinion on Allison as an artist/performer. I apologize if you somehow took it the wrong way. It was not intended.
 
#82 ·
Steve said:
RE: Adam. The boy has the most natural talent of the bunch, IMO. That said, I'm not sure how much of a living you can make simply singing interesting arrangements of other people's songs to start a career. That may be why we hadn't heard of him up to now, in spite of the professional exposure he's already had.
Well, it worked pretty well for the Rolling Stones, but that is going back a ways (and besides their arrangements weren't particularly that interesting.)

To step off the Allison bandwagon I've managed to associate myself with, I both agree and disagree with your comments about Adam. To me, Adam has been by far the best "contestant" this year. He has hit it out of the ballpark numerous times and when he fails at least he fails interestingly. The arrangements of other people's songs argument I consider somewhat bogus. As much as the judges claim they want originality, what gets audience votes (and judges adoration) is doing a decent job performing very well known songs. Aside from right issues, that's why you get so many of the same songs performed year to year.

My basic problem with Adam is I don't see a unifying musical theme to his performances. My favorite performances by him have been (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction and Black or White, though his vocals may have been better on other songs, especially compared to the former, he managed to connect them both to the trashy glam rock of the 1970s and come closer to what I consider real rock n' roll to be than all the Daughtrys in the world. I think this is especially true with Black and White, a somewhat generic pop song that rather safely promoted racial equality in love that through the sheer force of his personality Adam managed to subtextually turn into a gay protest/love rock song.

The problem is that his covers of songs like "Born to Wild" and "Play that Funky Music" are almost too on the nose and karaoke-ish. Adam doesn't need a "funk" song to be funky. And when he goes for the high notes, he can come across as a bit too Axl Rose-ish for my taste. (Though others might rightfully compare it to Queen.)

I also don't see how the ballads fit into his over all "style." He certainly sells them better by miles than anyone else on the show. But I don't see how they mesh with his better rock performances. Though I do think he arguably gave the only really good performance this week, I agree his "emotions" came across as pure acting. At the same time, when you see a professional performer in the midst of a world wide tour, how often do you think their emotions during their songs are truly genuine?

Of course, all this is just me randomly hypothesizing. Anyone should feel free to disagree with me as I'm fully comfortable with the idea that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
 
#85 ·
machavez00 said:
Next week is Rat Pack Week, should be interesting.
OK so Rat Pack week huh......who is going to sing what?

Allison - probably Etta James or Nat King Cole

Matt/Danny/Kris - Sinatra or Dean, maybe something from Sammy

Adam - whatever he sings will be the greatest thing since sliced bread and again will have Paula acting like a vapid little teenie bopper

Of all of them left, not counting Adam since he is going to win, Danny or Matt could be the home run hitters this week I think.

And about Matt, is it just me or is anyone else getting a weird Justin Timberlake look alike vibe from him?
 
#89 ·
BattleScott said:
He will definitely do well in the short term, but he will be a "Pop Icon" not a long term musical presence. To stay successful in the long term, you have to excel in the repeat listener market. That is where Daughtry, Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson are positioned. They will continue to do well because their fans are fans of the genre first, then the artist. Adam's fans are attracted to the "bright light" not any particular musical genre. Once a new light comes around, he will quickly be forgotten.
I disagree. Since we're making predictions, I say he's poised to become one of the major stars of a generation. He looks like young Elvis, and I think it's finally time to crown a new King of Rock n Roll.
 
#90 ·
Slip Jigs said:
I disagree. Since we're making predictions, I say he's poised to become one of the major stars of a generation. He looks like young Elvis, and I think it's finally time to crown a new King of Rock n Roll.
A lot of naysayers on this site will not agree with you - but I am not one of them. :cool:
 
#91 ·
Slip Jigs said:
I disagree. Since we're making predictions, I say he's poised to become one of the major stars of a generation. He looks like young Elvis, and I think it's finally time to crown a new King of Rock n Roll.
Adam as the next Elvis? Are you kidding? That would be like saying that MJs (Jordan not Jackson) kid is going to be better than his dad. He's good but he's no Elvis.
 
#92 ·
I think Adam's very good as well, but he's been a "pro" for several years now without having made a big splash. I wonder why?

From a post here: "He took private voice lessons and appeared in musicals - "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat," "Grease," "Chess" - at the Starlight, the Lyceum and other local venues. He has over 15 years experience and training in professional musical theatre, being cast in a six-month European tour of the "Musical Hair". He has made appearances in The Zodiac Show at The Henry Fonda Music Box, and Club Makeup at the Key Club. He has even performed for audiences at the Burning Man art festival the past two years. His breakout theatre role was opposite Val Kilmer in Moses. He was cast as Joshua in The Ten Commandments at the Kodak Theatre in 2004. After 'The Ten Commandments,' Adam was cast to understudy in the 1st National Broadway Tour of Wicked. While on tour for six months, he also collaborated with Composer/Guitarist Monte Pittman (Madonna, Prong). They have written over 20 songs as the alt/pop/rock band THE CITIZEN VEIN. Right before American Idol, Adam was appearing at the Pantages Theatre in the LA Company of Wicked."
 
#93 ·
From Portfolio.com:
A back-of-the-envelope calculation of how much the hit TV show has been worth to all the stars, wannabes, and do-gooders who make money from it.
As the article says, everybody wins apparently.
 
#94 ·
Steve said:
I didn't know this, but Matt apparently made an "album" back in 2006: http://cdbaby.com/cd/giraud2 /steve
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Steve said:
I think Adam's very good as well, but he's been a "pro" for several years now without having made a big splash. I wonder why?

From a post here: "He took private voice lessons and appeared in musicals - "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat," "Grease," "Chess" - at the Starlight, the Lyceum and other local venues. He has over 15 years experience and training in professional musical theatre, being cast in a six-month European tour of the "Musical Hair". He has made appearances in The Zodiac Show at The Henry Fonda Music Box, and Club Makeup at the Key Club. He has even performed for audiences at the Burning Man art festival the past two years. His breakout theatre role was opposite Val Kilmer in Moses. He was cast as Joshua in The Ten Commandments at the Kodak Theatre in 2004. After 'The Ten Commandments,' Adam was cast to understudy in the 1st National Broadway Tour of Wicked. While on tour for six months, he also collaborated with Composer/Guitarist Monte Pittman (Madonna, Prong). They have written over 20 songs as the alt/pop/rock band THE CITIZEN VEIN. Right before American Idol, Adam was appearing at the Pantages Theatre in the LA Company of Wicked."
As a fan of Adam and not so much a fan of Matt, I don't really consider either that big a deal. If a person wants to be a musician/performer, of course they are going to spend their time dedicated to getting better and attempting to work their way through the business. And these days, with digital music and the internet, it's pretty easy to find/buy music from just about every unsigned musician in the universe.

The only time I have a problem is with the Carly Smithson/Joanna Pacitti situations, where artists have already had big time major label albums and A.I. wants to pass them off as new discoveries.
 
#96 ·
Drew2k said:
I know Adam seems to be the annointed one, but I think Kris can't be discounted. I'd be happy with Kris taking it all... and Adam will do just fine without the AI crown.
Completely agree. I would compare it to the Melinda Doolittle - Jordan Sparks dynamic of a couple of seasons ago. Melinda/Adam were/are almost expected to blow the roof off the place while Jordan/Kris are content with being consistently good. If Kris manages to gives his "great" performance during an off week (by his standards) for Adam, I can easily see him squeaking through.
 
#97 ·
Drew you are right on, Adam is the anointed one and will go on to bigger and better things. Someone like Kris, Danny, or even Allison will benefit greater from this experience if they were lucky enough to be chosen the winner.
 
#98 ·
Kris is the dark horse biding his time in the wings. I can't imagine that any of the contestants are unaware of this.

I do think however that Kris, too, would do fine going forward, even without the AI crown.
 
#99 ·
QuickDrop said:
Completely agree. I would compare it to the Melinda Doolittle - Jordan Sparks dynamic of a couple of seasons ago. Melinda/Adam were/are almost expected to blow the roof off the place while Jordan/Kris are content with being consistently good. If Kris manages to gives his "great" performance during an off week (by his standards) for Adam, I can easily see him squeaking through.
I like Kris too, but I'm still waiting for a McPhee "Over the rainbow" or Archuletta "Imagine" moment from him. Haven't really felt it yet. I just came across Jordin's Idol performance of "She Works Hard For The Money", BTW. Forgot how enjoyable it was. :) /steve
 
#100 ·
Steve said:
I like Kris too, but I'm still waiting for a McPhee "Over the rainbow" or Archuletta "Imagine" moment from him. Haven't really felt it yet. I just came across Jordin's Idol performance of "She Works Hard For The Money", BTW. Forgot how enjoyable it was. :) /steve
Totally agree with the McPhee moment, but I wasn't bowled over with Archuleta or Sparks. Kris better hurry and have his moment, or he'll wither on the vine. If the judges tire of waiting, they'll turn and do a Lil number on him.
 
#101 ·
HDG said:
Totally agree with the McPhee moment, but I wasn't bowled over with Archuleta or Sparks. Kris better hurry and have his moment, or he'll wither on the vine. If the judges tire of waiting, they'll turn and do a Lil number on him.
Sparks's "She Works Hard..." wasn't her "moment", IMHO. Just put it up there for comparison to Kris last week.

Her "moments" for me were "You'll Never Walk Alone", "I Who Have Nothing" and even... "This Is My Moment"! :lol:

Just my .02. /steve
 
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