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Another list of Questions from Possible Direct TV convert

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by cnr1089, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. cnr1089

    cnr1089 Cool Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Ok, so I have seen several posts like this, but they all seemed to have gone in different directions...

    I have been with DirectTV for over 10 years and have been off contract for about 3 years. My bill is around $100 a month for 2 DVRs (two tvs), HD, and an Occasional HBO or Showtime sub depending on what show is in season.

    I am getting sick of our relatively high bill for the lack of channels we actually watch. Was holding out for the battle of the providers and media producers to be figured out and for some more IP based turn-key TV solutions, but alas, I don’t see that happening in the next year.

    Anyway, it is time for me to get a whole-home DVR. So it is the Direct TV Genie (which I am sure Direct TV wants me to pay $300 for) or the Dish Hopper (which I would get for free for being a new sub).

    Plus, switching to Dish (at least initially) will likely cut my monthly bill significantly. As of right now, Direct TV throws me HBO or showtime for free every once in a while, but not much else.

    So, my questions:

    1) What is my actual monthly cost going to be? On the Dish website, it says $39.99/month ($59.99 after the first year), but it didn’t change when I said 3 tvs (I will be adding a 3rd tv from my current setup), I assume that isn’t really my final cost. How much do more boxes cost me per month to have?

    2) Hopper with Sling...

    Is it “slinging” the whole interface as if it is a Joey box? If so, can it sling to multiple devices at a time (same # as the number of Joey boxes you could have, assuming they aren’t current’y accessing the Hopper)?

    (I realize that Hopper with sling is available starting tomorrow).

    3) Primetime Anytime

    Almost everything I record would be covered by this (not all, but a lot). So, can I just set up season passes for my shows and not have to manage “8 days of primetime”? That is, if I record Modern Family, do I have to manage the fact that it was recorded by the tuner all at once with other channels during prime time? Seems like that detail would be hidden from the user? If I do keep modern family until I have time to watch it, does it manage the space properly so it doesn’t waste space for all the other channels I am not keeping?

    Anything else I should be aware of? The biggest thing I want, honestly is a nice centralized DVR where I do not have to worry about which DVR has what recordings (or which DVR I set up a recording on). I would consider staying with Direct TV if they gave the Genie (new one HR44) and the client boxes for free, plus maybe gave me a break on my bill, but otherwise, it doesn’t make financial sense to not switch.


  2. ebox4greg

    ebox4greg AllStar

    Dec 2, 2012
    I just came from DIRECTV due to a billing nightmare they refused to correct.
    I don't think the HR44 is being distributed yet.

    the current GENIE HR34 has its issues definately. Good luck dealing with retention on getting a "deal".
  3. Thunderstruck

    Thunderstruck New Member

    Jan 13, 2013
    I too had a difficult time changing over, but I just did it 30 minutes ago.

    As far as the total bill. If you go online and start filling out the application, you will be given the "real" total before final submission.

    Mine came out to $70.99 for the top package (That price is for the first year)
  4. ilyag2

    ilyag2 Cool Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    Whatever programming package you choose, you need to add $10/mo. for the Hopper/DVR service and an add'l $7/mo. for each Joey. Also, to get HD for life, sign up for paperless billing. Otherwise, it's another $10/mo.

    If you go to DISH online for pricing, got to "build my own" as the previous post suggested. Note - you have to hit "add equipment" (under "configure") to see the hopper/joey charges. It's a button next to the picture of the sling adapter. (It will also add the sling adapter, though).
  5. sregener

    sregener Godfather

    Apr 17, 2012
    I can answer some of this:

    2) No, it does not sling the interface. Just the programming. However, the browser app and the apps for mobile devices is pretty full-featured. Trust me when I say you don't want some things from the TV interface on your 4" touchscreen...

    3) When you set up to save a series from PTAT, it only saves that series, not the whole PTAT recording.
  6. cnr1089

    cnr1089 Cool Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Thanks for all the responses, it is useful to know more about how the Hopper actually works.

    So, as for pricing, the website is pretty confusing (I will call at some point, once I am more serious about making the jump).

    Ok, here is what I get on the Dish Builder (note, I chose Top 200 because it is severely discounted for the first year):

    America's Top 200	$64.99
    First Year Monthly Discount	-$10.00
    $20.00 Online Bonus Credit - Click here for details
    Additional Programming
    TV 1 Living Room HD DVR	Included
    TV 2 Master Bedroom HD DVR	Included
    TV 3 Other HD DVR	Included
    DVR Fees	$7.00
    Monthly Receiver Fees	$0.00
    Whole Home Service Fees	$0.00
    Hopper Outlet Fees	$0.00
    One Time Fees
    Hardware Charge	$0.00
    Activation Fee	$99.00
    Promotion - Activation Fee	-$99.00
    Total Due Today Package and the $7 DVR fee and
    Monthly Bill
    * This is an estimate of your first statement based on your current programming & equipment selection. Pricing will be adjusted when the $20.00 Online Bonus is submitted.	$61.99

    It seems to imply that I am only paying for $7 for a DVR Fee (note, on the previous page, I have “ Free Hopper Whole-Home HD DVR for 4 rooms Hopper Details” selected) per month and that is it. Am I mis-reading this or is did I selected something wrong?
  7. patmurphey

    patmurphey Godfather

    Dec 21, 2006
    You don't have to "manage" PTAT. If it is turned on, you can set Series Timers (Dish's wording) for all of those prime time shows and they will all be recorded with the one tuner. Those recordings will show up in the "My Recordings" page just like any other recording. You don't ever have to look at the Prime Time Anytime page except maybe to discover other shows that you might be interested in. PTAT manages itself, the recordings that are not saved over to "My Recordings" just go away after 8 days. There is plenty of user space on the Hopper's 2TB drive to save 400-500 hundred hours of HD shows even with PTAT enabled. If you need to save more, external hard drives can save more at up to 2TB apiece - all accessible by any DVR on your account.
  8. cnr1089

    cnr1089 Cool Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Ok, another Hopper/Dish question.

    Can I hide adult “recorded” content? On DirectTV, I can lock out channels and prevent someone from watching shows above a certain rating while locked, but in the list of recordings it has the items, but it says “Blocked Title” (or something like that). So when we have friends over, we disconnect the DVRS (and only record “Blocked Title” items upstairs”) so that there aren’t a ton of these conspicuous “Blocked Title” items...

    I believe with the Genie I will be stuck, since all the recordings will be in one place. The Hopper/Joey has the same issue, but if Dish handles blocked items differently, it might be an advantage.

    Thanks Again....
  9. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    ...I block adult channels and they don't show up at all...um, I don't tend to record them, so...I'm not particularly sure. But I know that enabling the adult locks where available even prevents the Adult On Demand stuff from appearing in the menus.
  10. cnr1089

    cnr1089 Cool Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Ok, last set of questions (I am 90% convinced to do the switch):

    1) Where is the Dish Satellite? I see lots of different directions on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EchoStar. My neighbor has dish and theirs is pointed in a completely different direction then my DirectTV one (although from the little research I ahve done, they should be in a similar direction), but they also subscribe to a lot of International Channels, so maybe that is why

    2) What is the best tactic for switching without interrupting service? I want to tell DirectTV that I am switching, giving them one last chance to keep me (Genie, clients, free, plus reduction in bill for a year, to match what I would get (mostly) switching to dish), and if that fails (it will), do my switch, but I can't have DirectTV turning off before I have Dish turned on (or at least at the install date), any suggestions?
  11. riceboyler

    riceboyler Cool Member

    Nov 2, 2005
    I just got Dish installed yesterday and they put the Dish, uh, dish in the same place that my old DTV 5LNB dish was and it was pointed in a very similar direction. Not exactly the same, but very close.

    As far as your second question, just don't disconnect DTV until you get Dish installed. Talk to the retention team, give them one last shot and when they won't give you what you want, tell them you'll be calling back once Dish is installed to cancel your service. Then do just that.
  12. brett_the_bomb

    brett_the_bomb Legend

    Oct 24, 2009
    Call dtv and ask for cancellations/retention. They will make their best offer or can schedule your cancellation. Just tell them what u want. You may be surprised.
  13. Jon J

    Jon J Grouch Extrordinaire

    Apr 22, 2002
    Music City, USA
    Or, you may just be quoted full price for the receiver and installation.
  14. patmurphey

    patmurphey Godfather

    Dec 21, 2006
    Dishes - NH is likely Eastern Arc. Go here and look at 61.5, 72.7 and 77.


    77 may not be necessary depending on your locals.
  15. brett_the_bomb

    brett_the_bomb Legend

    Oct 24, 2009
    Always possible. But you don't know until you ask.

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