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Another school board run amok

Discussion in 'The OT' started by wilbur_the_goose, May 23, 2012.

  1. Aug 23, 2012 #61 of 328
    Rich

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    That's not just a saying, in the Navy (the one I was in, can't speak for today's Navy) that's the truth. The officers didn't do much of anything.

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  2. Aug 23, 2012 #62 of 328
    Rich

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    Not all of them, I'm still here (hypocritically, with three kids and several grandkids). I believed the folks who thought they saw the future and they were right. Too many people. The math was right there in front of everybody and nobody paid attention.

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  3. Aug 23, 2012 #63 of 328
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    Ahh, you must have read The Peter Principal.

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  4. Aug 23, 2012 #64 of 328
    Rich

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    I was shocked the first time my son attended an awards dinner. I could not believe they handed out a trophy to every kid. That did stop as the kids got older, but if it was up to the parents every kid would have played shortstop and would have been given a trophy. Fortunately baseball doesn't really have room for players that brood about losing. It's not about what you did for me yesterday, it's what you're gonna do for me today. And statistically, baseball celebrates losing. It's not hard to "teach" being a good loser when you're on a baseball field. I do think it's terribly important to teach your kid/s that losing at anything is rarely the end of the world (unless you're in a gun fight).

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  5. Aug 23, 2012 #65 of 328
    fluffybear

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    Our school set-up a running club and I thought this was great until I received a note that kids will get credit for walking to/from school. SO what was suppose to be an extra circular activity to get kids to exercise more is now becoming we will award you (yes, they give awards out for 10, 25, 50, 100 & 150 miles plus most miles in their class, grade level, school)for just showing up
     
  6. Aug 23, 2012 #66 of 328
    dpeters11

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    It seems more schools don't even allow the students to walk to school (in some cases the schools are built outside of town on busy roads without sidewalks). I've read of cases where students have actually gotten reprimanded by the school for riding their bikes to school. In at least one case, the parent was riding with them.

    http://www.bicycling.com/news/advoc...NL-_-906894-_-05082012-_-why_johnny_cant_ride

    So in a way it's lucky that they actually can walk to school.
     
  7. Aug 23, 2012 #67 of 328
    Rich

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    So wrong in so many ways. What does this teach the kids?

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  8. Aug 23, 2012 #68 of 328
    SayWhat?

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    Don't at least some district get paid by the bus rider?
     
  9. Aug 23, 2012 #69 of 328
    Stewart Vernon

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    I know it might sound a little odd... but isn't walking to and from school exercise? And haven't we been told that walking could be better than running for many people since you can probably walk longer than you could run?

    Isn't this the equivalent of homework for the track team? Asking them to walk to school...

    Giving you math homework to do outside of class helps you prepare for the next class... wouldn't walking to school help get you in better shape for running?
     
  10. Aug 23, 2012 #70 of 328
    fluffybear

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    the difference is you don't get a Chick Fil-A kids meal for every 50 math questions
     
  11. Aug 23, 2012 #71 of 328
    wilbur_the_goose

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    We don't have kids, but a friend I used to work with does. Kids are elementary school in NJ. My friend is "old school" - his retired mom was a school teacher; his father a cop.

    I'll bet he told me at least one crazy story about his kid's school every week. What they couldn't eat, what they couldn't do or say or wear. It really has gotten out of hand.

    But, I usually teach some Junior Achievement classes, and I'm always happy with the skills and smarts of the students. Maybe, just maybe, they're succeeding in spite of the school boards.

    I keep thinking I should run. The guy with no kids who wants to get schools to be schools again. Nah - I'd be laughed out of town :)
     
  12. Aug 25, 2012 #72 of 328
    djlong

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    An old friend was a teacher in our school system when the 'ban on peanuts' started.

    She confided to me that the REAL reason for the ban was that the teachers couldn't guarantee that no kid would ever trade a lunch with another.
     
  13. Aug 25, 2012 #73 of 328
    AntAltMike

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    Shortly before my mother passed away a couple of years ago, we were reminiscing about her always baking brownies or fudge for the grade school Christmas parties and other occasions, and she mentioned to me that one year my teacher caled her up three times to bake for her because she was afraid to ask the class if any of their mothers could bake something because she would be afraid to serve it. Our school served the poorest section of town, where some of the kids surely had rats for pets.
     
  14. Aug 26, 2012 #74 of 328
    Rich

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    Perhaps you might factor in where we both live. Our school districts in NJ do allow kids to walk to school, but not many parents let that happen. We're always getting alerts about people trying to lure kids into their vehicles.

    In NYC, I kinda doubt many folks allow their kids to walk to school. Not after that kid disappeared in the Village in 1979. Ethan Patz was his name and I was in the Village that weekend and the poor kid's posters were all over the place.

    About walking, if you walk a mile a day, after a month you should have gotten most of the benefit and would have to increase the distance to get more out of it. All exercise regimens are like this, you have to steadily increase your regimen to get anything out of it.

    I know this: My granddaughter, Sadie, is a little cutie pie and she's not gonna walk to or from school as long as I'm alive. Wouldn't matter where we lived.

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  15. Aug 26, 2012 #75 of 328
    Davenlr

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    Damn. Is the garden state that screwed up that everyone is paranoid about kids walking to school? I used to walk to school every day, about a mile each way. Never was bothered. Kids walk to school around here, or walk to the bus stop, depending on how far from the school they are, every day. Cant recall a single incident of anything here being reported on the news.
     
  16. Aug 26, 2012 #76 of 328
    spartanstew

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    Most of the kids in our neighborhood walk or ride bikes to school.
     
  17. Aug 26, 2012 #77 of 328
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    Speaking of what the kids can wear, I was at a meeting during school hours a few years ago in a lab with the class present. One of the kids was wearing a T shirt that had REDRUM emblazoned across the front. After the meeting I asked the teacher how they could allow that. She had no idea what I was talking about. Told her to stand the kid in front of a mirror and she'd see what I was talking about.

    Next time I saw that teacher, she thanked me and asked me how I knew. Told her it was time to start reading Stephen King.

    If you have a desire to run for a school board and think you can make a difference, go for it. Our property taxes in NJ go towards our schools and I'd be happy to see people without kids in school district offices. It's not like you're a Boy Scout leader or managing Little League teams. Those guys really make me wonder.

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  18. Aug 26, 2012 #78 of 328
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    Sadly, yes. I walked to school when perverts were something that people didn't worry about. Just about every parent was a WWII vet and if a pervert was around, he would not have lasted too long.

    It's not like that now. Everything has changed in my lifetime. For the worst, in many ways.

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  19. Aug 27, 2012 #79 of 328
    djlong

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    Sometimes you just hear more about it. Kids being kidnapped is still something overwhelmingly done by family members.
     
  20. Aug 29, 2012 #80 of 328
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    Agree. But I wish I understood the root cause(s). People point to a lot of different things, but none seem sufficient by itself. I don't like thinking that things change haphazardly.
     

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