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Another Thing: No mentioning of anything that happened before public release

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - HR21 Discussion (private)' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. HDTVsportsfan

    HDTVsportsfan Active Member

    Nov 29, 2005
    :rolling: !rolling !rolling
  2. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    That was funny!:lol:
  3. Spanky_Partain

    Spanky_Partain Active Member

    Dec 7, 2006
    We went through the same exact reaction with the H21-200 introduction, "...what? no OTA, you couldn't pay me to take that thing..."
  4. HDTVsportsfan

    HDTVsportsfan Active Member

    Nov 29, 2005
    They'll get over it.
  5. houskamp

    houskamp Active Member

    Sep 14, 2006
    If they do MRV I'll have 4 ota and 6 sat tuners.. I'll be all set :)
  6. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    The inspriation for the term "running amuck"... :D
  7. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    It is guys like you and me that recognize the few people who bitch. The problem is, those who don't care, the real basic customers, who're miles from the nearest OTA antenna, won't be posting. Remembering that should put us all at eases since there are roughly 50k people here, and DirecTV has several millian customers, we're a nitch few. And those that bitch about it, are even a smaller nitch few. They will get over it, I will put money on that!
  8. houskamp

    houskamp Active Member

    Sep 14, 2006
    still need abc,nbc,pbs thru D* here.... good ol' lin :{
    they should just make it law that as long as they carry full programs and comercials they can do it free..
  9. mhayes70

    mhayes70 New Member

    Mar 21, 2006
    I am with you on that one!
  10. sbl

    sbl Icon DBSTalk Club

    Jul 21, 2007
    I wish I could get my local PBS station in HD. They have a lot of nice content. Maybe when the "more locals" kicks in that will happen.

    I will admit that I don't understand the logic either - it has to cost more in duplicate SKUs than they save by omitting the OTA feature. But I'm not losing sleep over it. I have an OTA antenna, though it is currently disconnected because I don't have enough wires run to the location. (C'mon, SWM!) Even when I had it hooked up, though, I never used it. I'm 37 miles away from the Boston transmitters and don't get a good signal on all of the stations.
  11. Koz

    Koz Icon

    Sep 16, 2006
    I agree, but I also know they didn't make the decision on a whim. Someone surely did a cost/benefit analysis on it.

    There could be other issues we don't know about as well. Perhaps the contract price for the HR20-700 with Pace was horrible. D* wanted to get out of it, but needed to replace it with a different product and thus the HR21-700 was born. I see all kinds of decisions at work that look weird until you see the details. (though there are a few that are still weird.) :lol:
  12. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    I agree with you houskamp, perhaps we should lobby it? I'm certain there is a majority who'd want it and the restrictions should be changed.

    There are quite a few channels here in St. Louis I get OTA that I will not get over the satellite. PBS, WB (or whatever it is called now), etcetera. My wife would have complained if her show was still being aired (Gilmore Girls) but that show is canxed now, so no issues for us. I agree PBS does put on so pretty nice content though.

    The cost benifit analysis would have certainly been done. I think one thing that is missing, from most everyone's thoughts on this is that Media PCs are picking up in ferver. Most folks are getting it and are using them for the OTA content. I would suspect DirecTV considered this when they developed the design. The area DirecTV doesn't share with everyone else is the sat connection, which could be done on the PC via a PCI card, but why...think about this strategy for a while before you answer. The addition of Viiv is a winner in my mind. People will, I'm guessing once DirecTV implements video over the media share, send their OTA content, imagine that?!

    I don't know, but I do like to speculate...speculate right and you're on the curve, wrong then you have to adjust, or die. <Yuck, that was morbid>

    Time for a beer!
  13. Herdfan

    Herdfan Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2006
    I think I will try to pick up at least one more HR20. My local CC's still have them in stock.
  14. Groundhog45

    Groundhog45 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 9, 2005
    Cedar Park,...
    Yeah, no NBC here from D* thanks to Lin and of course no PBS. I wish something would change in the rules. Luckily I'm only about 10 miles from the towers. Austin is one of the areas who ducked and ran when the FCC rule came out about children's content on sub-channels. All of the stations dropped the subs, so that leaves less for D* to pick up. I do have a media center PC as backup for the HD locals. It has been posted elsewhere that Intel is de-emphasizing Viiv so that may not be an important item. I just hope D* will eventually come out with the long rumored tuner card or set-top-box for media center PCs. That and MRV will be nice.
  15. say-what

    say-what Active Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    New Orleans
    You didn't know? It's a proven fact that everytime DirecTV produces a unit without OTA, a child's puppy or kitten dies.

    I'm begining to think that the OTA crowd views the H21's and HR21's lack of OTA as the first and second signs of the Apocalypse. :eek2:
  16. azarby

    azarby Hall Of Fame

    Dec 15, 2006
    I don't know how many of you have noticed, but I detect a lot of jealousy and anger in some of the posts. I think some are just p----d because they wern't part of the test group.

  17. Smuuth

    Smuuth Well-Known Member

    Oct 4, 2005
    For me, I would not care too much about OTA if DIRECTV would get the CW and PBS HD feeds included in my HD locals. I do have an ATSC tuner on the TV connected to the HR21, but I would still like to have the DVR functions for those channels.

    I know getting ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX HD locals to more DMAs is higher priority than CW and PBS HD in the DMAs already served, but have there been any predictions of timeframes for the latter? Will it happen with D11?
  18. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    I hear ... and I obey. :)
  19. Drew2k

    Drew2k New Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Peter did a great job thanking everyone, but let me again add my thanks. It was a fun effort and everyone played a big part in this. It's gratifying to hear it was well received, but like the saying goes, it was really a team effort.
  20. Jeremy W

    Jeremy W Hall Of Fame

    Jun 19, 2006
    There is definitely some of that, without a doubt. But there are also the people who are just angry about the lack of OTA. Honestly, I've always viewed OTA on DirecTV receivers as more of a "nice addition" than a "necessary feature." I understand that some people need OTA to get access to their locals, but I fail to see why it's DirecTV's responsibility to provide them with that access.

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