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Another Year without local HD channels

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by blackhillsjk, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. JWKessler

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    The OTA tuner in Dish receivers (and I assume DirecTV receivers as well,) will only receive and decode over the air digital ATSC broadcasts picked up by an antenna. It will not receive the old NTSC analog TV over the air or from cable nor will it decode the digital QAM signal used by cable operators. If my VIP722 had a QAM tuner I would be a very happy fella!

    Most modern TVs and the few outboard tuners you might find will receive both ATSC and QAM digital signals. I don't know why QAM isn't included in the Dish tuner, but perhaps it was omitted intentionally to avoid conflicts with cable operators.

    I'm unaware of any third party device that will tune in and record a clear QAM signal without paying a monthly fee. TIVO has a $15/month fee or a one time $500 life time fee. I contacted my cable company about renting one of their DVRs but that won't work unless I subscribe to a full digital package and I'm unwilling to pay for two TV services with lots of duplicate channels.

    If you are looking to be really educated on all of these standards here is a good place to start.

    http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/08/hd-101-what-is-atsc-psip-qam-and-8-vsb/
     
  2. kenglish

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    Most will just wait for FEMA, I 'm afraid. ;)
     
  3. kenglish

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    Funny....I just Google'd "Battery TV Sets", and saw a whole slew of sets in the 19-inch range, with built-in battery backup (like a built-in UPS). Seems that they were all designed for the African markets.
    Guess they take their power failures in stride.

    The little portable ATSC one's, like the news guys use, are from Office Max.
     
  4. coolman302003

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    Channel Master TV CM-7400 or HD HomeRun Dual both allow you to tune/record Clear QAM without a monthly fee.
     
  5. JWKessler

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    The HD Homerun Dual requires a PC to do the recording. It's intended for viewing on your computer screen. I'm looking for a VCR type device that would work well in a home theater.

    The Channel Master option IS what I'm looking for however. It's a bit pricy at $350, and risky since cable operators are now allowed to scramble local channels. If my cable operator does that I'll have a $350 door stop.

    It would be so much easier if Dish simply gave us HD locals. DirecTV is looking more attractive every day.
     
  6. Jim5506

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    For about the same price, maybe $50 less, you can get an HD TiVo with lifetime subscription, if you are patient.

    And the TiVo can iuse the cableco's cable card.
     
  7. Don M

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    Let me echo what Jim5506 said, only I would very much like the Amarillo locals in HD on DISH. I do get them using the OTA tuner in my 622s, but it would be great to have them in HD straight from DISH. Thanks for any help.
     
  8. CCarncross

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    Now see, Directv finally gave us our locals in HD after about 5 years of promising, and I dont use them, because I record the OTA versions through my dvr just like you can do with the Dish stuff if you have it setup that way. I never have to worry about weather related outages.
     
  9. JWKessler

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    Unfortunately I only get the two locals broadcast on high band VHF here. The UHF locals don't come in, even with the expensive UHF antenna and tall mast I bought. So I'm stuck with NBC, ABC and PBS in fuzzy vision. NBC is in wide screen SD within a little box, and has a terrible picture and crappy sound.

    I'm giving Dish till the end of May to fix this, then I'll be switching.
     
  10. bidger

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    The bolded part is important since Cable was granted the ability to encrypt basic cable early this year and would require a CableCard to decrypt the HD locals. May not be happening where you are right now, but it will eventually.
     
  11. bidger

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  12. JWKessler

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    My friends with DirecTV in the Binghamton DMA assure me that they get WSKG in HD.
     
  13. JWKessler

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    Praise Zeus! We got home tonight, the housemate turned on the TV and immediately started complaining. None of his network shows were recording and some channels had vanished from the favorites list. So I went to all channels in the guide and lo and behold, we have HD locals! I happily updated the guide, though at the moment the program data is still unavailable.

    As a point of interest, even WSKG, our PBS local is listed as HD. I'm curious how these channels will look once actual HD programming is on the air. The locals I've checked so far are still unable to originate HD programming so local stuff and syndicated programming is in fuzzy vision. The actual network programming will be in HD.

    Thank you Dish for finally coming through on this.
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    This just happened with a very recent uplink... I'm not familiar with the DMA to know how many of the locals they uplinked (if it covers all the available locals or not)... but it was a pretty good list.
     
  15. jdspencer

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    Is The CW in HD?
     
  16. James Long

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    Yes. Whether your market's affiliate carries it in HD is a different question.
     
  17. Ray C@DISH Network

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    I show the following channels provided in HD from us: 7, 10, 14, 4, and 2 on satellite 61.5. Thanks.

     
  18. Jim5506

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    Ray:

    Do we get our Lubbock HD locals Wednesday or must we wait another week?

    I know you probably have no inside information, but I had to ask.
     
  19. Ray C@DISH Network

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    I haven't seen any new information about HD local channels for Lubbock yet. I'll keep checking and let you know. Thanks.

     
  20. DaveD345

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    I am also in the Black Hills, Johnson Siding area. I would be ok with receiving the local channels in Standard Definition if Dish would stop cutting off the ends of the picture. Have you noticed that, too? I mean, all our local stations broadcast in widescreen, 16:9 aspect ratio, but Dish adds a 4:3 mask that covers the left and right portions of the picture. A full 22.5% of the picture is missing on all 5 of the locals. I am currently discussing this problem with Dish. One of the things they have told me is that no one else has complained about it. Would you be willing to also contact them via their Facebook page and tell them you want the problem fixed? Contact me in a PM if you would like to collaborate on this. I'm really tired of it but they (Dish) do seem to be listening to me this time around.
     

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