Antenna for local stations

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by b4pjoe, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. b4pjoe

    b4pjoe New Member

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    I really don't have what one would call "local" network channels. All of the local network channels are in the range of 80 - 100 miles away from my house. I do get those channels through DirecTV but of course they go out often during rain and snow so I would like to be able to get them with an antenna. Can anyone point me to an antenna that might bring in those channels from that distance. I'm guessing it would have to be at least a rooftop antenna or possible even higher than the roof. Any suggestions?
     
  2. trh

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    Try TV Fool

    80-100 miles is usually more complex (higher antenna).
     
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  3. studechip

    studechip Godfather

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    You definitely need an outdoor antenna, but terrain matters a lot. Where are you located?
     
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  4. bjdotson

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    It depends what you mean by local channels. If you mean the actual stations, usually they have towers throughout the DMA to rebroadcast the signals. In Utah for instance, most of the stations are in Salt Lake City but you can receive the channels from southern Utah to Southern Idaho. That's a pretty big distance.
     
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  5. msglsmo

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    antennaweb.org is a good resource.
     
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  6. SHS

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    One thing for sure you need big Directional Antenna and higher up the better off your are but if they are in range of 80 - 100 miles then must likely you may not get them unless the TV station are on high output transmitter and they have tall towers which you need to will need get high off the ground at lease 40' feet depend on the terrain your in
     
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  7. b4pjoe

    b4pjoe New Member

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    I checked dtv.gov and the channels I am interested in getting are the ones in the "weak" range.

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  8. Athlon646464

    Athlon646464 Gold Members DBSTalk Gold Club

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    I don't work for SolidSignal, however I do know if you get on the phone with them they will give you spot on advice for those channels and your location.

    Solid Signal
     
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  9. SHS

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    The only thing you can do get a big Directional Antenna and try 20' feet off the ground talk look at Channel Master Advantage 100 (CM3020) and get Amplify Adjustable Gain Preamplifier (CM-7777HD) or another option Denny HD Stacker TV Antenna and Winegard LNA 200 TV Antenna Preamplifier.
     
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  10. slice1900

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    What height did you list when you did that tvfool plot? Those stations are all listed as 2 edge, which means that even if you pull them in they won't be reliable. You'll need your antenna high enough that you see 'LOS' in that plot, and if you go to 50 feet and still don't see it you might as well give up now unless you are OK with spotty reception.
     
  11. P Smith

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    rabbitears is good too
     
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  12. b4pjoe

    b4pjoe New Member

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    Well I have tried up to 200 feet and they still say 2 edge. 50 foot would be max for me and that might be a stretch. Looks like it won't be possible. Thanks for all the replies.
     
  13. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    Either their towers aren't tall enough or the terrain isn't quite as flat you as you think between it and you.
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    there is a chance - use a aerostat ;)
     
  15. b4pjoe

    b4pjoe New Member

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    Well it isn't Kansas flat...but it certainly isn't what I would call hill country either. :)

    Growing up (the 1960's) we had an antenna on a tower that was probably around 50 feet and we got TV stations at that distance but not all that well. But technology wasn't what it is today which is why I was hoping to be able to get them now via antenna.
     
  16. codespy

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    The rule of thumb in the past was even on completely flat terrain, the max is about 75 miles due to the curvature of the Earth. Going from a 20’ high antenna to a 50’ high antenna really makes no difference at that distance. Just my .02 cents.....
     
  17. NR4P

    NR4P Dad

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    It makes a difference if you neighbors houses and trees are more than 20' in height.
     
  18. RBA

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  19. RBA

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    With out putting in an elevation I gained a second LOS station just using the zip code. If you want the major networks they should all be UHF and about 80 miles or less. A deep fringe UHF antenna with a preamp. has a good chance without a tower.
     
  20. codespy

    codespy RIP Starr! DBSTalk Club

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    My point was flat land with no obstructions. TV Towers are usually around 1000 feet high. At 75 miles away across flat land and no obstructions, a 50' antenna doesn't really aid the situation compared to a 20' high antenna. I'm sure someone here can come up with some scientific data on calculations including the curvature of the earth and the height difference between antennas across that distance. I have just not seen great results from other posters in the past with long distances.

    People long ago thought the Earth was flat....of course there's still some in the world that probably still believe that. It would help if it was for OTA broadcasts......
     

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