Antenna for local stations

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  1. trh

    trh This Space for Sale

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    Yes there are. Here is an article about a guy who spent about $20,000 to launch himself up to 1,875 ft last March on a home-built rocket to see if the earth is flat. He was quoted afterwards saying that he wasn't sure if the Earth was flat and would have to build and launch a bigger rocket.

    I say spend $150 and buy a round-trip airline ticket between LA and Las Vegas and get up around 35,000 ft.

    A man who is actually practicing for the Darwin Award.

    Flat Earth Rocket Man Finally Blasts Off In Homemade Rocket To Prove Earth Is Flat
     
  2. Athlon646464

    Athlon646464 Gold Members DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Why not just run to the edge?
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    what edge ? it will take time … a lot of time;
    the rocket is fast and you'll have an answer right away :D
     
  4. slice1900

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    But only for stations listed as LOS. If they are 1 edge or 2 edge, they will not be reliable no matter how big your antenna is or how high quality of an amp you use.
     
  5. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    And yet he didn't get the answer he wanted. Now he wants to blast himself into space. Ok by me. :)

    Just as long as he doesn't bump into any satellites.
     
  6. Jim5506

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    First thing I would do is some driving around the neighborhood and see if anyone has an antenna that appears to be being used (not ratty with no cable, etc).

    Stop and ask them about reception (which channels, how stable, etc.).

    Next is to decide how much money you want to invest in a hobby of watching deep fringe TV. A tower with amp, antenna and cables plus installation can quickly exceed $500 maybe even $1000.

    BTY, by interpolating your location , I find that at 200ft some of those 2 edge stations become 1 edge stations, but a 200' tower probably requires lights and a permit from everybody's mother-in-law.

    Fringe TV reception is more of an art than a science.
     
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  7. KyL416

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    With digital, the reception requirements are even more strict. What was considered a snowy but watchable signal in analog won't give you anything on digital.

    Most stations are taking advantage of the repack to also increase their power because of a clause that allows stations to boost their coverage area to match the biggest signal in the market, even if they aren't changing their channel number, but a quick check on rabbitears with your zip code doesn't show any improvement. And sadly none of the St Louis stations have any translators or distributed repeaters. The most you can hope of getting is a nearby religious station and some PBS stations, anything else will be dependent on atmospheric boost conditions and not reliable.

    If you want a more accurate post-repack prediction, since even small hills and slight elevation changes can make a difference between what you get and a house on the next block can get, enter your address here and the height the antenna will be above ground, choose 100 miles and check the post-repack search and strength search options:
    RabbitEars.Info
     
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  8. b4pjoe

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    Thanks for that info. The results are not good. LOL I guess that $50 attic antenna from Amazon would be a waste. :D
     
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  9. b4pjoe

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    OK going by the info at RabbitEars.Info I should be good to get the channels I want if I put up a 500 ft. tower. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen. :confused:
     
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  10. KyL416

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    Yeah, at that point you might as well just get a seasonal subscription to the local cable company's basic broadcast package during the peak rainy months if you need a backup, and for the winter get a dish heater if the dish isn't in a place that's easily accessible from the ground to brush off the snow.
     
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  11. slice1900

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    Speaking of repeaters, this isn't any help in the near future, but ATSC 3.0 allows for something called single frequency networks, or SFNs. Basically it allows multiple transmitters on the same frequency to be used, rather than the old model of needing separate channels for those transmitters, so they will be much easier to use.

    It remains to be seen whether this is something TV stations adopt or not. On the one hand it gives them greater reach, which would increase their overall viewership. On the other hand, to the extent it makes cord cutting easier (or people subscribing to Dish/Directv dropping their locals and using an antenna instead) it would cost them the retransmission fees they get paid by cable/satellite companies.

    So right now I don't think anyone here knows whether SFNs will be widely adopted or merely replace translator stations. But its possible you might have an easier time with OTA a few years from now.
     
  12. b4pjoe

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    My dish is on the roof. I can reach it with a broom stuck in the swimming pool extender pole to brush the snow off. But in the spring with a lot of storms we lose the signal often. Probably would opt for one of the cheaper streaming services that have locals before I would get a cable package.
     
  13. jimmie57

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    Try these people. I have one of their antennas that says 45 miles. My stations are 32 miles and I get many channels here in the Houston area at 100% signal strength and quality.

    This antenna in the link is highly rated and it is HUGE !
    Deep Fringe Advantage Digital HDTV Outdoor TV Antenna-Channel Master CM 3020 (CM3020)
     
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