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Antipiracy bill targets technology (including PVR/DVR)

Discussion in 'General Satellite Discussion' started by HappyGoLucky, Jun 18, 2004.

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  1. psycaz

    psycaz AllStar

    Oct 4, 2002
    Hey, the downloading of movies is what caused GIGLI to be such a flop, everyone who wanted to see it downloaded instead of going to the theatre to see it. (Huge sarcasm)

    I agree with the others, piracy is wrong, but you can't convict everyone because someone might do it. Ask Direct TV. They finally got busted on their tactics.

    The RIAA and MPAA need to come to facts as others have said that their biggest enemies are themselves. They expect sales to continue to go up in a down economy. They keep looking for a scapegoat and don't want to admit they have gotten caught with their price gauging. If you add in that probably half of what they produce is garbage anyway, why should sales go up.

    I only see about 1 movie a year in a theatre anymore due to ticket prices. I just wait for the dvd. I don't buy cds anymore, don't like whats produced. MY wife waits until they start hitting the cheapy section or she won't buy them either. They cost too much. I'd rather go back to vinyl than pay what they want. There is no reason for the inflated prices outside of greed.

    Of course those extra profits can buy some of the best congrssional legislation out there.

    P2P networks may engage in illegal activities, but you can't hold everyone accountable or blame everyone on them. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty around here. But more and more its just: GUILTY! , hey what was it did they did again...
  2. Spruceman

    Spruceman Guest

    "How is a law in the US going to affect the internet, which is an internation entity? "

    Simple answer to that. We'll do just what we always do when some other country refuses to be our biatch -- bomb them back to the stone age and send in the troops. That'll teach those infringement enablers. If the Russians could have controlled the flow of info as well as our existing, let alone proposed, copyright law does, they'd still have their evil empire.
  3. HappyGoLucky

    HappyGoLucky Banned User

    Jan 11, 2004
    Example of Best Congressmen Money Can Buy:


    WASHINGTON, D.C. - House Judiciary Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.), Ranking Member John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.), and Judiciary Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property Subcommittee Chairman Lamar S. Smith (R-Tex.) issued the following statement regarding H.R. 107, the Digital Media Consumers' Rights Act.

    "We strongly oppose the substance of H.R. 107. This legislation would eviscerate a key provision of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA), which is successfully protecting copyrighted works and providing consumers access to more digital content than ever before. In fact, a DVD player is now as common a household item as the VCR was 15 years ago precisely because of the DMCA. H.R. 107 would undo a law that is working and destroy the careful balance in copyright law between consumers' rights and intellectual property rights.

    "Furthermore, our strong objections to the substance of H.R. 107 are matched by our objections to what appears to be a bold jurisdictional power grab. The Judiciary Committee has - and has long had - exclusive jurisdiction over copyright law. Rest assured, we will wholeheartedly oppose this move in a bipartisan fashion, as we would expect Energy and Commerce Committee leaders to do if we attempted to write energy legislation."
    What isn't noted in their little speech is that these three House members are currently some of the biggest beneficiaries of campaign contributions from the movie and music industry corporations and lobbyists. The RIAA and MPAA lobbyists practically set up shop in their offices. But of course, that doesn't mean these elected officials might be biased, does it? :sure: :sure:
  4. dahinga

    dahinga Guest

    This bill is BS!!! If your son buys a music CD, and the music gets installed on your daughter's computer; then both of your children are criminals ???
    Welcome to the United States of Corporate America!!!!!
  5. Tyralak

    Tyralak Icon

    Jan 24, 2004
    Happy, hell has just frozen over, and I recently saw a flock of pigs heading south for the winter fly over my house. I actually agree with something that dispicable little Troll, Michael Moore said. I saw a re-run of the O'Reilly Factor, where Moore was a guest, and he made an interesting point. When Bill asked Moore is he advocated Socialism, Moore said not really, and said something along the lines of: "Big corporations are more socialist than anyone else in this country." I did some thinking on this, and I think he's right. Every time there's public backlash over a product, corporations are the first to want to impinge on the 1st Amenendment. They lobby to have the libel (sp?) laws strengthened so people can't speak out. When they do poorly in business, they're the first to ask the governement for a handout to bail them out of their own poor business practices. When they fear competition, they try to get laws passed like the DMCA which has been used more often than not, to quash competitors making a competing product. Or they try to get patent laws broadened so that nobody can make a competing product. And when they want to increase their profits, they're the first to ask Congress to pass new laws like the piece of legislative diahreah we're discussing now, basically outlawing fair use, so people cannot backup the items they buy for their own use. Thus requiring the person to spend more money they otherwise wouldn't have to spend to replace a damaged CD, or to have to re-buy a movie on DVD that they already own on VHS. A lot of big industries are using the government as their own personal piggy bank. As a true Libertarian Capitalist, I find this deeply offensive.
  6. HappyGoLucky

    HappyGoLucky Banned User

    Jan 11, 2004
    (BONG) (BONG)
    "What Knockers!"
    "Why, thank you, Doctor"

    I think you'll be Abby Normal before you know it. :D
  7. Randy_B

    Randy_B Icon/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Apr 23, 2002
  8. Mike Richardson

    Mike Richardson Banned User

    Jun 12, 2003
    Those damn pigs flew in front of my LNB and gave me pig fade :lol:
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