Any Good Reason To Upgrade For "Free" To HR54 From HR34?

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  1. Jun 9, 2017 #1 of 81
    BigFoot48

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    I got an email yesterday from ATT for a free or $99 upgrade and I'm wondering if it's worth doing. I have a 70" 4k Vizio but have read that 4k is basically useless at the 15' distances we watch it from.

    GENIE HD DVR UPGRADE OFFER: Offer ends 7/10/17. Includes instant rebates on one Genie HD DVR and up to three Genie Minis. Req's SELECT Pkg. or above; ÓPTIMO MÁS Pkg. or above; or any int'l service bundle w/ PREFERRED CHOICE Pkg. $99 fee applies for Wireless Genie Mini (model C41W) upgrade. $99 fee applies for single-room setup
     
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  2. Jun 9, 2017 #2 of 81
    DishCSR

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    This is a new customer offer only, existing customers aren't eligible for this

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    jimmie57

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    I have a 55" 4k Samsung that I sit 12 feet from and I guarantee that anyone can see the difference, not just me.
    Don't listen to anyone that does not have one. I was in the camp of you could not tell the difference at a distance until I bought mine.

    Most of what I read are that the HR34s are nothing but trouble.

    If you want 4k on that TV it will have to be connected to a C61K that will get programming from the HR54.
     
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    compnurd

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    I agree I have a 65inch and i can see a difference between 12-15 feet. However in this case the HR54 alone would be a big bump over the HR34 just based on that
     
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    MysteryMan

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    Never pass on a opportunity to upgrade from a HR34-700. That unit has more problems than a dead monkey on a rock. As for 4K a high end Ultra HDTV will give you noticeable resolution difference beyond the recommended viewing distance.
     
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    Rich

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    No matter how many times we refute that nonsense it keeps popping up. I guess folks must be entranced by the graphs.

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  7. Jun 9, 2017 #7 of 81
    BigFoot48

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    Thanks for the comments and I'm thinking about it. I'm a 20-year customer and the email said "As a valued customer, we would like to offer you an upgrade including the best 4K entertainment experience available with the most live sports in 4K." so I think it does apply to existing customers.

    I'm also glad to know the 4k distance advice was wrong (saw it at rtings.com) since I paid extra to get the 4k Vizio M70-C3 in early 2016. I haven't tested it with some 4k pictures but could, I guess.
     
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    NetFlix and Amazon have many 4K offerings, but that's not all the new sets are good for. You must have noticed a much improved picture when viewing D* content, the upscaling on most new 4K sets is very impressive. I really don't see much difference in the NF or AP 4K content and the same content in 1080p upscaled to 2160p.

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    BigFoot48

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    The picture looks really good so I suppose we did notice it but just didn't attribute it to the 4k upscaling.
     
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    The other option, to avoid the two year commitment is to try to get the 34 replaced as a tech support swapout. You'd probably get an HR44 at that point, which isn't any good as part of a 4K system, but it's another option.
     
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    If you have a 4k TV, get the HR54 upgrade but you will need the C61K client. Normally $99 but maybe get it thrown in.

    You will get Chs 104-106 and 104 is all free 4K stuff. Some very good, some not so good. You have the TV, you have a dead slow HR34, jump in. The speed difference alone on the HR54 is enough to do it.

    PS: If you have a home phone line on your HR34 with CID, HR54 doesn't support that. Didn't want to surprise you with that missing piece.
     
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    Good strategy but I've been generally happy with the 34 and after 20 years another 2 really doesn't matter. Not really interested in going Comcast for TV although their internet and phone are just fine.
     
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    Thanks, we don't use the CID feature.

    I don't understand the need for additional C61K hardware (I have none now). Is that for additional TVs, like our bedroom non-4k which is connected to the 34? (I'm reading the HR54 thread now.)

    The "free" 54 offer does come with these not-free things: "$99 fee applies for Wireless Genie Mini (model C41W) upgrade. $99 fee applies for single-room setup."
     
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    Other than the HR34, what is your other equipment (if any)?

    For 4k, two things are needed, a HR54 and a C61k. They'd also replace part of your dish. This is even in a one TV configuration. The HR54 cannot actually display the 4K content to a TV directly, you have to use the c61k as a front end.

    I wouldn't use wireless on any TV unless you really had to.
     
  15. BigFoot48

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    Thanks, I understand the use of the C61k now. I have a AM21 for OTA viewing but don't use it anymore, and a non-4k Roku box, nothing else. So it appears the 61 will be needed for the 4k Vizio but the 54 will feed the non-4k on the other side of the wall directly. Finally getting this figured out.

    It also appears the 54 will not record programs at 4k, just at 1080? Is that correct?
     
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    You do NOT need a C61K if you have a DirectV 4K compliant RVU TV. Most of the latest 2017 RVU TVs work really well. Though you can argue the C61K is a better solution for future proofing
     
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    Go on YouTube with your app on the TV and they have some 4k and some 4k with HDR videos you can watch. They are awesome.
     
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    It will record in 4k no problem. It just can't play them back directly.
     
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    Good point, I tend to forget that with my rvu compliant but not actually compliant LG.
     
  20. NR4P

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    To be clear for the OP.
    HR54's record 4K but do not have a HDMI 4K output.
    So since you don't have a RVU TV, you need the C61K at that TV for it's 4K HDMI connection. IT can receive channels 104-106 directly and play them as well as any 4K show (or non 4K).
    The HR54 can connect directly to other non-4K TV in the home. It is the 4K server at in that regard.
     

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