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Any way to block or delete "Top Movie" push downloads

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Spoffo, May 30, 2009.

  1. paulman182

    paulman182 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 4, 2006
    You're wearing out your hard drive recording crap just so a couple of movies won't get recorded every few days?

    You're wasting all this time scheduling recordings just so a couple of movies won't get recorded every few days?

    When I start to worry that RF has gotten to me over the years, I'll try to remember this post...:lol:
  2. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    What I find most funny about this thread...

    1. Top Movies does not take up any space the customer will EVER have access to.

    2. Top Movies does not prevent any recordings that the customer requests.

    3. Top Movies can be completely ignored by the customer if they never tab over.

    4. Top Movies does not use an internet connection so no usage costs to the customer.

    In other words, a whole bunch of complaining about something that has zero affect.

    DirecTV had to come up with something that would allow customers to watch PPV instantly. They have the scheduled PPV but they are behind the curve on instant gratification that cable customers have. They came up with a two-fold approach. Internet download which is still not 100% instant but work for many. So, for the absolute instant gratification, they prioritize some movies they feel will be the most in demand and place them on THEIR portion of the hard drive when your DVR is not doing anything for you.

    Actually, a pretty smart approach. The only aspects I have issues with are the cost and the 24 hour viewing limit, both of which are mostly out of their control.
  3. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 24, 2007
    This is space we never had. That is to say the reserved space has always been reserved.

    However, if they decided to release the space it won’t the full reserved area. There still needs to be space reserved for DVR functionality. What would we get...maybe 15-20 hrs of recording space.

    I also find myself wondering if DirecTV doesn’t use this space for PPVs would it have an effect on our bills.

    I have to believe that DirecTV gets some kind of payment for placing certain movies in the “Top Movies Now”. There are consequences to DirecTV freeing up that space and I’m pretty sure it would be monetary. If they lost that revenue stream would they have to pass it along to us? :scratchin

    Not to mention that those that want to watch a PPV don't have to wait for a certain time. They can do it Now. ;)

    Something to think about.

  4. evan_s

    evan_s Hall Of Fame

    Mar 3, 2008
    I can understand where you are coming from and it definitely does sound like you know what you are talking about but you have to keep in mind the realities of the situation. Having worked the tech support industry your experience doesn't surprise me at all and if I where in your situations I'd pretty much expect that.

    You are so far out of the area a CSR or even a tech over the phone is suppose to handle that they don't have any clue what you are talking about. They are probably going to try to run you through what ever troubleshooting they think might some how be related. You are going to have to follow what ever steps they want you to try before they get to the point of escalating you. I wouldn't be surprised if that included at least 1 visit from a tech too. They aren't going to, and probably can't, escalate the case until they've done all the appropriate steps. Only after that will you get to someone higher up who might understand what you are talking about and might have some way of passing the information on to someone who can possibly fix it but even then you are still going to need to be willing to jump through what ever hoops they ask again.

    You already did probably the best thing you can do by posting it on the boards here. You have some more technically literate people, eg the mods, who do have some contacts and may be able to help get the issue addressed.
  5. Spoffo

    Spoffo Legend

    Dec 31, 2006
    Geez! :eek2: I'm surprised at the passion my original post provoked. I'm not THAT worked up over it. It's just that I've been with DirecTv since the days when an RCA DTC-100 was the only HD receiver (with a 540p output and VGA-only connection to boot) and, I bought my first HR20 the day they activated OTA reception on it for the first time.

    So, having had my external HDs hooked up years before they started the "Top Movies" thing, it seemed likely that they grabbed some HD space that used to be available to me when they added it. I'm aware that they always had a reserved block for system software. It just surprises me a bit to find that their original allocation from years ago had enough unused space to host 20+ hours of recordings that weren't part of the original plan.

    That said, the insanely low prices of hard drives means I'll probably upgrade to multi-TB drives on each unit within a year or so, which will render the whole issue trivial.
  6. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    I think they planned on pushing movies all along when they released it, which is why they had set aside such a large portion in the first place. I think it just took a while before they started doing it.
  7. AlanSaysYo

    AlanSaysYo Legend

    Aug 22, 2007
    About time someone pointed this out. When a feature isn't officially supported, it's the same as saying "here's something to play with, but no promises on how it will function." What's there is what's there. If this were an officially supported feature, I'd venture to say that these sorts of issues would probably be addressed, or at very least there'd be a note in the DVR manual saying that not all of your external drive space will be used for recordings. I'd even jump out on a limb and assume part of the reason this isn't an official feature is BECAUSE these issues haven't been addressed and D* customer service doesn't want calls relating to it.

    IMO, just be happy it's there in the first place.
  8. dcowboy7

    dcowboy7 Hall Of Fame

    May 22, 2008
    Pequannock, NJ
    If theyre gonna put it there they should support it.
    Otherwise dont even put it there.
  9. michaelp95

    michaelp95 Cool Member

    Jan 16, 2008
    "Buy" isn't Directv using the wrong terminology there? We no longer get to "buy" our DVRs, their leased...so shouldn't it say "Lease this PPV for 24 hours"? haha
  10. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Um, you can't add an esata port later on, but you can add official software support at some point.. so it makes sense to put it on there for when they do officially support it... and letting us use it now is a nice jester from then, unlike cable companies and Fios, where they give you a measly 20 hours total recording time, have esata and usb ports, but don't allow anyone to use them for anything... I think I'd rather have unsupported opportunities than none at all..
  11. dcowboy7

    dcowboy7 Hall Of Fame

    May 22, 2008
    Pequannock, NJ
    Sure they can....just come out with a new model DVR with a supported esata port & if u want esata u can buy that DVR.

    My 1st DVR had 50 hrs HD....then they came out with a 100 HD DVR....if i wanted it i would have to buy it.
  12. DogLover

    DogLover Hall Of Fame

    Mar 18, 2007
    So, don't look to the future. Only put in hardware features they can support today. Make customers continually buy more hardware when they want new capabilities.

    Yes, I suppose they could do it that way.

    I'm glad they don't.
  13. ThomasM

    ThomasM RF Engineer

    Jul 20, 2007
    Milwaukee, WI
    I don't believe this. On many occasions, my scheduled recordings failed mysteriously and then I noticed that a "top movie" was downloaded during that time period. I also recall posts from folks that didn't have the amount of time allocated for their recordings used up but the unit told them they had to delete some recordings in order to record more.

    Maybe these issues have been corrected-maybe not.
  14. dubber deux

    dubber deux Icon

    Mar 7, 2009
    Coincidence? Probably not.

    They are trying darn hard to push people to buy PPV stuff so this wouldn't surprise me at all. Seems underhanded if it's true.
  15. sdirv

    sdirv Icon

    Dec 14, 2008
    Worked for GM.......(planned obsolescence)

    Oh wait.........
  16. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

    Nov 3, 2006
    I've never felt compelled to rent PPV, and I don't even wear aluminum hats.:lol:
    Just ignore the "top Movie" tab.:)
  17. DogLover

    DogLover Hall Of Fame

    Mar 18, 2007
    It's not the way it is supposed to work, it could have been a bug. I hope it gets reported in the issues thread with details, so they can fix it.
  18. dubber deux

    dubber deux Icon

    Mar 7, 2009
    Oh so it's true that those PPVs are pushed in during scheduled recordings like the other poster mentioned above? I thought it was a good possibility.

    Anytime I hear the phrase "tinfoil hat", or similar used regarding any response to a subject I automatically tend to believe there is truth to it. How's that for "reverse psychology" ?;)

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