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Any way to lower my bill?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by mr_mark95, Mar 9, 2011.

  1. TonyT@DISH Network

    TonyT@DISH Network New Member

    Jan 6, 2011
    That is in the AEP (included in price, not a separate line item anymore).

    As NickF mentioned, let us take a look at the bill and see what we can do. Also, having a list of channels you "cannot live without" is always a good thing, as it helps to cut out the programming that you CAN live without. There are plenty of options to decrease your bill, and rather then sitting idle when we could lose a customer, NickF and I would rather reach out and offer our help. PM us a phone number if you want us to have a look and see what we can do to get that bill lower.
  2. jsk

    jsk Icon

    Dec 27, 2006
    Fallston, MD
    Without knowing much about your preferences, here are possible suggestions:

    * Drop the service plan. You can always add it right before a service call and drop it 4 months later without penalty. Disadvantage: None
    * Have only one 722 and split the TV2 signal among the rest of your TVs (you may need to buy extra remotes). Disadvantage: You would need to watch the same programming on the rest of your TVs.
    * Get other people to join E* via the ClubDish program. See http://www.dishnetwork.com/clubdish. You get $50 off your bill (in $5/mo increments) for every referral & free PPV.
    * Drop down to a much lower package and get a NetFlix (or another similar service) subscription for movies and other programming. You can usually get a month's free trial. Disadvantage: Lower quality online.
    * Compare with other TV providers (include bundling savings with Internet, telephone, and/or cell phone). This is a little tricky, but for an upcoming move, I created a spreadsheet with different options (e.g. keep E* and use Verizon FIOS for Internet/Phone/Cell, or E* (TV), Comcast (Internet), Verizon (POTS/Cell) or go with Verizon FIOS for TV/Internet/Phone/Cell Phone (include E* Early Termination Fee if applicable)). Check with E*, D*, & local cable/FIOS companies to see if they have any bundling options in your area for TV, Phone, Internet, &/or Cell Phone service. Keep in mind that cable phone service is a little less reliable than other providers. Disadvantage: Very time consuming

    Of course, you would want to compare channel lineups (including HD if that is important), picture quality (maybe go to a friend's house who has a different provider), fees, etc.
  3. pistolpete52

    pistolpete52 AllStar

    Sep 3, 2010
    I'm switching to Dish from Directv tomorrow. *D* is more expensive than you think. It looks like you're getting a lot for your money. Directv's equivalent to what you have will be more expensive.
  4. bebop

    bebop Cool Member

    Mar 27, 2011
    You could lower it by $36/month if you drop the service plan (not needed), change the 2 722's to 612's and sign up for the free HD. You'd get about the same functionality, same programming. I'd even drop the platinum and save another $10 bringing the total savings to $46/month.
  5. rocket69

    rocket69 AllStar

    Oct 26, 2008
    I was in this problem also at one time .

    My gear was $21 extra and DVR service was Free on the AEP
    When i jumped to Direct dish wanted $ 50 for the same gear that ive had since day one.

    If you need 6tv's its going to be hard to go any place for less other then OTA or Basic cable no box.

    Drop to the 250 and do netflix. Ditching the service plan with DVR's on your account is not a good thing unless you want to roll the dice and hope dish will charge you $15 service calls when the hard drives fails.
  6. bebop

    bebop Cool Member

    Mar 27, 2011
    Add the service plan later if you need it. I agree, you likely don't watch all those movies anyway, and netflix is great these days ($8 online only, or $10 with DVD's). That satisfied my movie craving and can cut costs considerably over the AEP programming.
  7. Mike500

    Mike500 Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2002
    I'd go with dual tuner Vip222K receivers, activate the external hard drive DVD feature for a one time $40 charge and get HD for Life.

    The non-DVR receivers are ultra reliable and last almost forever. It's the hard drive that goes bad. The toughest and quiretest hard drives are the 2.5 inch Western Digital Passport ones. A 500 Gig one, using one USB 2 cable sells for about $60 delivered. They are extremenly quiet; they use very little power; and they have two year warranties. If one goes bad, just unplug it and plug in another. And they continually have higher capacacities at lower price as time goes by. Having the hard drive outside of the receiver allows the receiver and the drive to run cooler and last a lot longer.

    That way, you can chuck the service plan.

    The current EA or WA lnb has two ports. With 221k's you can hook up to three dual tuner 221k's with no expensive multiswitch.

    As a spare, I purchased a brand new EA lnb for $22 delivered, in case I need to replace it.

    And, in the rare case that a receiver goes bad. Dish will send you a replacement almost always for free or just the $15 shipping charge, if you agree to another 2 year commitment. DirecTV does the same.

    These recurring charges are budget killers.

    Then, you can get any package you'd want and avoid the DVR fees as well and the HD fee.

    So, by doing what I said, you'd pay the minimum in fees; and extra $7 each month for each HD receiver.
  8. BobaBird

    BobaBird EKB Editor

    Mar 30, 2002
    DVR conversion is not yet available for the 222/222k, just the 211/211k. Receivers that can use an EHD require it to have its own power supply rather than being USB-powered.
  9. SingleAction

    SingleAction Legend

    Apr 29, 2005
    So which do you have?

    If you have Dish, why are you a choir boy for Direct?
  10. Mike500

    Mike500 Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2002
    Thanks for the heads up on the 222/222K.

    I would still recommend the 2.5 inch laptop EHD. Some have two USB connectors on a "Y" cable. If it doesn't one is readily available cheap, as well as a USB wall wart.
  11. TonyT@DISH Network

    TonyT@DISH Network New Member

    Jan 6, 2011
    As already addressed, the 222/222k will not support an EHD or DVR functionality, and that statement is likely to remain factual indefinitely.

    As also addressed, even on receivers that do support EHD hook-up whether for archiving or DVR-activation, the drive you recommend is not supported due to the power available on USB. The drive must be a self-powered (independent power cord), single platter drive (not flash or RAID), and be between 50GB and 1 TB for a VIP211/211k, and up to 2 TB for an HD-DVR (EHD not supported at all on SD receivers).

    Just to clarify, 1k.4 and 1k.2 dishes have 3 ports (output) and 1 input. I assume the receivers you are mentioning are the 222 models and this is just a typo.

    Simply put, NO. A two year commitment is not required for defective receiver replacement. With a service plan the shipping fee is waived, and without one shipping is $15. If the receiver is purchased and out of warranty, there may be a $75 (most recent information) flat-rate repair fee. Either way, no commitment. There are other stipulations, but this information pertains to the vast majority of customers that require a replacement when there is no physical damage done to the defective receiver.

    The only time a two year commitment is required is when upgrading leased equipment with more leased equipment, and there may still be an upgrade charge, depending. The purpose of the 2 year commitment is to prevent customers from paying full MSRP for a receiver that becomes useless if service is discontinued with DISH. Selling purchased equipment is permitted, but the initial cost of the receiver may never be recovered.

    With regard to receiver fees per month (regardless of HD or SD, and also does not apply to primary receiver) the fees are: Duo DVR, $17; Duo, $14; Solo DVR, $10; Solo, $7. In addition to the receiver fees, there is an account level DVR fee of $6 for SD/HD DVRs, unless its the ViP922 which makes the account level DVR fee $10.

    To the OP and anyone else, if you are still looking for ways to save money, my team and I would be more then happy to review your account. Understand that this does not mean we will discount the service, but we will certainly look for ways to reduce the payment and/or make suggestions that will save you money in the long run. We are official DISH Network employees, and our whole purpose here in the forums is to improve your experience with DISH in any way that we can. Thanks.
  12. scorpion43

    scorpion43 Duplicate User (Account Closed)

    Mar 16, 2011
    he's beeing sarcastic
  13. Mike500

    Mike500 Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2002

    Thanks for your update;

    While I've been in the business when TV4 (later named Vanguard 1) was launched and Echo 1 and the Tiros weather satellite were the only US satellites in orbit, I left the DBS business in 2007. I met James Van Allen at NASA, when he discovered the radiation belts which bear his name. At that time I was an engineering intern from my college at NASA. As a teenager, I installed TV antennas in the early 1960's. So, I'm not as up to date as you are on Dish Network. I met Charlie in Houston in 1985, when I installed c-band. Those were the days, when you could really make money on satellite.

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