One last question for today haha... has anyone gotten DTV to allow for a Genie self install? Called them up and they said I could have the box for free, but I'd need to have a tech come out to install it. Really? I need to sit home for 4 to 6 hours to have a tech plug the box into the wall?? Assume I have an SWM capable dish. And they want to charge me $50 to have said tech come out and plug in the box. Based on my experience with DTV techs, they overstay their welcome, confiscate a bunch of stuff (last time they came out, a simple dish re-aim turned into a 4hr appointment where they disconnected my OTA, confiscated the splitters, diplexers & multiplexers, etc), disconnect OTA and just make an overall mess.