What strategies are you all using to get discounts these days? I used to call periodically and see what deals I could get, and actually, quite often, I'd get loyalty discounts or upgrades just by calling for something else. Last time I had to call them about something (one of my HR2x boxes bit the dust), I got an upgraded Genie (to the HR54) because I had gone 4K (they asked that question), plus I got like 6 months of Showtime and Starz, and they knocked off some money off the bill. I didn't even ask them to do that. But I'm gathering from reading here that this hardly ever happens, and you actually have to threaten to cancel to get them to budge on anything (and with that some of you never even got an offer, they just cancelled you). To be honest, as much as I want to save money by going streaming, it just won't work for me. There are too many people in my household with too many different tastes that it would require three different streaming/antenna options to get everything I'd want. And with that, there's a whole host of other reasons why it's still inferior in my opinion. The other option is to move to cable, and last time I priced it out, it would actually save me about $40. But I'm hesitant because I'm not sure I like their DVR and have a tough time finding decent info on it. But I'm considering it still. But my fear is that if I say I want to cancel, they'll just cancel without any offers and then I'm screwed.