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Anyone Else Regret Dropping Tivo to Upgrade to DTV's HD DVR?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by TechMoe, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. dodge boy

    dodge boy R.I.P. Chris Henry

    Mar 31, 2006
    Not really HD but I went from the R10 to the R15 and now to the R22 and would not go "backwards" (IMHO) to TiVo. I had 2 Tivos at one point, I know they will do all the things the plus DVRs do, but, and I don't know how to say this without getting a "blackeye" from TiVo lovers, but I prefer the "Grown up" interface of the DirecTv DVRS.
  2. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Ummm, where you have been the past 4 years? LOL.

    Seriously, this has been in the works for a very long time and you should have been getting all kinds of phone calls over the past 6 -12 months to offer you free upgrades.

    DirecTV has gone to MPEG4 compression on their HD channels as has Dish Network. It's simply that the HR10 can't decode MPEG4 because it's sooooo old now and was released well before plans to go to MPEG4 went into effect. There have been well over 100 HD channels released in the past couple years that are MPEG4 that the HR10 can't see. It's just time to finally get rid of the MPEG2 HD channels to free up the bandwidth for more channels.
  3. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Yes, this is the bottom line .. The HR10 should continue to be a great Standard Definition receiver with the ability to receive HD OTA .. to the HR10 is not a useless device.
  4. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 24, 2007
    This has nothing to with forcing anybody to upgrade anything.

    It's about more HD without sacrificing quality.

    The fact is the HR10-250 can't do MPEG-4. You can still use the HR10 for SD and OTA.

    No one should feel that this is a plot to force anybody to upgrade.

  5. vegasnv

    vegasnv Mentor

    Jul 5, 2008
  6. Maverickster

    Maverickster Godfather

    Sep 20, 2007
    +1...or maybe Dish 922...
  7. Jhon69

    Jhon69 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 27, 2006
    Central San...

    You are correct sir!.:sure::)
  8. Feb 6, 2009 #108 of 139

    Jgriffin64 New Member

    Feb 6, 2009
    First I was a Phillips 7000 Directv Tivo User, $99.oo from BB floor demo.
    WOW, goodbye VCR's, it was awsome, Loved it.
    Got rid of my Old Projection TV and got the last Sony 60" DLP produced.
    Used it for a year without HD other then my Xbox. Then I got the HD bug, bought and HD player for the Xbox360, upgraded to the PS3 for BlueRay, now it was time to also see that my cable was giving me HD as well, but who cared, if it couldn't be recorded. About 4 mos ago, I picked up a used 10-250 for $60.oo and bought an OTA antenna. WOW, spoiled I was. Then we get the e-mail to upgrade for free. Why not until the new Tivo's come out.
    Got the HR22 today, my wife is really upset with the menu system and figuring out the season passes. The remote is a learning curve and so is the menus, but am I the only one that has noticed that the picture just doesnt' seem as vibrant, as sharp?

    I'm not going to get into the Duel channel buffers that I just don't know how I will get by without, I'll have to learn...
    I'm not going to get into the freq changes that are happening since I want to display the same broadcast freq being transmitted so I can see what he quality is.

    Maybe I just got a cheap substandard HDMI cable and I'll swap that tomorrow. My wife is tempted to send the free unit back, just for me to connect the old 10-250 back up and use OTA recording, but I told her we would just have to live with it and see by recording some of the same shows we have already stored on the 10-250 for comparison.

    I've heard the D system complaint for a few years, which kept me from getting a D HDR. I've even picked it up once at BBuy and took it to the counter and in line read where I didn't own the unit so I just couldn't complete the transaction at that time.

    Maybe in a few days after I stop turning the light on to see the remote once I have it all figured out I'll determine that the video quality is acceptable, but I am still looking into this and will let everyone know.

    If anyone else has noticed this, or if it's just me, please let me know.


    (FYI) Basic cable is free with my internet, or I can discontinue and pay an extra $9.99, so I rarely use it, but it's there...
  9. Feb 6, 2009 #109 of 139

    doctrsnoop Godfather

    Nov 20, 2007
    Well there is a learning curve, but my wife and I have done it too and now it's no problem.

    As for the picture quality, there shouldn't be a problem. Have you gone into the menu to set the resolution? You'd have to have a truly defective HDMI cable for that to be the difference
  10. Feb 6, 2009 #110 of 139

    Jhon69 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 27, 2006
    Central San...

    If you don't like turning on the light to see the remote you need to order the DirecTV RC64RB remote from DirecTV's website.It's $25. +tax.That also includes shipping.The remote buttons are backlighted,and I highly recommend it.:)

  11. Feb 6, 2009 #111 of 139

    wingrider01 Hall Of Fame

    Sep 9, 2005
    HD + content + wife and kids not screaming because of the HR10 self-boot option > Tivo, so no not missing the HR10 at all.
  12. Feb 6, 2009 #112 of 139

    lflorack Godfather

    Dec 16, 2006
    I had two Tivos for man years. Now I have two HR20's. I thought I'd really miss the Tivos. I don't. The HR's have been great and I have no reason to miss the Tivos.
  13. Feb 6, 2009 #113 of 139

    w3syt Legend

    Feb 17, 2006
    I'll take the newer system. I have owned/leased many boxes.
  14. Feb 6, 2009 #114 of 139

    giantsox Mentor

    Oct 25, 2007
    I've had an HR2x for about a year and a half. Am getting my 2nd one installed today and it will be replacing the Direct TV Tivo that currently resides in my bedroom.

    As has been repeated, DLB will be missed. I find the HR2x series to work incredibly well. Tivo is nice, but I suspect I will have forgot about it 2 weeks from now.
  15. Feb 6, 2009 #115 of 139

    bscott Legend

    Jun 4, 2004
    Simple answer is no. Have two D* HR's now. Had an SD TIVO before upgrading to HD and haven't though twice about losing it.
  16. Feb 6, 2009 #116 of 139

    spunkyvision Godfather

    Oct 12, 2006
    Me : not really. Only Issues I have had are/were MPeg4 issues I suspect.
    Partner: YES, I have to have the SD Tivo along with the HR20. Never had to show him how to use Tivo, the HR20 he still doesn't "get"

    My biggest gripe with the HR2Xs is the POS remote, primarily the location of the most commonly used 30 Sec Skip, Pause and rewind buttons.
  17. Feb 6, 2009 #117 of 139
    Steve Robertson

    Steve Robertson Hall Of Fame

    Jun 7, 2005
    I don't miss my Tivo one bit
  18. Feb 6, 2009 #118 of 139
    Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    I don't regret dropping my Sony T60 although it was a fine device that worked near flawlessly for many years. As good as it was it wouldn't receive DirecTV's HD MPEG4 signal.

    I do regret that DirecTV did such a poor job of development and quality assurance on the HR2x series.
  19. Feb 6, 2009 #119 of 139

    utlimate_ed Cool Member

    Jan 7, 2009
    A couple of years ago, I replaced a dead DSR7000 with an SD DVR. It was our second unit upstairs, so it wasn't so critical. Quite frankly, the worst thing about it was the smaller capacity (I had upgraded the HD's in both my DSR7000's)

    Here in December, we got the upgrade bug and went ahead and replaced our other Philips unit with an HR22. With a 500GB drive, it has as much HD capacity as my old unit had SD capacity.

    To be certain, the interface is different and somewhat slower. I really don't like that the shows aren't sorted by title rather than by what recorded most recently. But, for the most part I have no regrets about switching.

    I went into this with the plan that, if the HR22 was too troublesome, we'd move it upstairs when the new TIVO powered boxes come in and get one of those for the main TV. At this point, I'm not sure if a new TIVO powered box worth be worth all that much more.
  20. Feb 6, 2009 #120 of 139

    bhuber Legend

    Sep 13, 2004
    Wilton, IA
    I've had my HR2X for about 2 months now after using a Tivo for many years. I do have to say it was different, in time I have gotten used to it.

    Will I switch back to the Tivo when it comes back to D*, not sure.

    The one thing I still miss the most about the Tivo was the remote, it fits in my hand sooooo much nicer. Then again D*'s remote has its own set of advantages.

    So more or less I'm still undecided, and keep the old Tivo sitting right next to me on my desk...


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