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Anyone in FL with NFLST get a huge increase in FL sat taxes ?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by TANK, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. Aug 4, 2018 #1 of 21
    TANK

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    Last month my Directv sat bill was $179.18 total
    FL county sales tax -$0.21
    FL gross receipts - $3.34
    FL state communications tax - $12.75
    FL state sales tax - $1.26



    This month the first installment of NFL Sunday ticket was added - $48.99
    The taxes increased by $33.63

    FL gross receipts video - $10.31
    FL state communications tax - $39.41
    I called ATT and they claim FL has added a luxury tax on the NFL Sunday ticket.


    Anyone in FL seeing the same tax increase?

    I cancelled the NFLST and the bill went back to $179.16. So there wasn't a general tax increase. Just when you add the NFLST.
     
  2. Aug 4, 2018 #2 of 21
    jimmie57

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    I wonder if they collected the tax for the whole year's cost instead of the installment price ?
     
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    jimmie57

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    From what you posted it looks like the total Florida CST Tax is a little over 7%.
    If you do $48.99 x 0.072 it is about $3.52.
    Maybe they put the decimal place in the wrong spot ?
     
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    trh

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    From the Tax Rate tab on that link.
    And there is an Excel file for download that has local rates.
     
  6. Aug 5, 2018 #6 of 21
    slice1900

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    Florida is probably charging taxes on add-ons like NFLST when maybe they previously didn't. Like jimmie57 suggested, I'll bet they are collecting the tax on the entire NFLST price instead of the monthly $48.99.

    If you take $300 as the full NFLST price the $33.63 in additional taxes is pretty much at the same ~11% tax rate that appears to charged for the rest of the bill.
     
  7. Aug 6, 2018 #7 of 21
    TANK

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    I sent a e-mail to the Florida Dept of Revenue asking about the tax ,hopefully I get a reply.

    I doubt that Florida has increased the tax on NFLST packages. Without the NFLST the taxes charged on the bill are normal for Florida.
    ATT must have made a mistake, but how do I get someone to correct it ?

    The other day I called and explained to 3 different depts that they made a mistake. Even the Loyalty Dept just told me that is was Florida's fault for the high tax on NFLST.

    I have had the NFLST since 1998, I'm going to miss it.
     
  8. Aug 6, 2018 #8 of 21
    James Long

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    Based on slice's math the tax is correct (assuming that the tax was charged all at one time despite the content payment being divided). It appears that AT&T|DIRECTV made two mistakes ... charging the tax as a lump sum this year and (apparently) not charging the tax in previous years. In my opinion any tax should be charged at the time the item being taxed is charged. But there may be some Florida tax law that applies that I do not know.
     
  9. Aug 6, 2018 #9 of 21
    slice1900

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    Does Directv let you cancel NFLST after the season has started? If that's the case it isn't necessarily wrong to charge all the tax up front, since you'll have to pay the other installments regardless.
     
  10. makaiguy

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    Have you tried logging into your account online and seeing what your upcoming next bill will look like? Should answer the question re whether tax on the whole package was charged at once.
     
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    No you can't cancel after season has started
     
  12. TANK

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    Got a reply from Florida Dept of Revenue ,saying there is no luxury tax on sat programming. So ATT made a billing error .
     
  13. slice1900

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    That doesn't mean you won't have to pay tax on NFLST, only that AT&T calling it a "luxury tax" was incorrect.
     
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    I know that NFLST is taxed,but ATT charged me $33.63 in taxes for a single $48.99 NFLST installment charge.

    My taxes for Florida are $17.56 on my monthly bill of $179.18.
    This month the NFLST installment of $48.99 was added and my total tax charges increased to $51.19 .
    ATT claimed that the NFLST was taxed at the higher rate because of Florida's "luxury" tax.

    There is no such tax.
     
  15. jimmie57

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    When you buy a car and finance it you are charged the sales tax on the full car price, not per installment payment. Did you ask them if this was for the full year for this tax ?
     
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    Yeah I bet they charge the entire tax for the total amount up front and you won’t be taxed on future installments. It all depends on how they book it but I’ll bet that’s what is happening. And the car just didn’t understand that so made up the luxury tax line... I doubt it’s a mistake.
     
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    Same with installment plans for cell phones
     
  18. trh

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    Not the same.

    Yes, the total tax is added to the price of the car (the dealer is actually the one making the tax payments to the state). But the first month payment you make doesn't include all the taxes; the taxes are evenly paid out over the life of the loan.

    AT&T is doing something wrong. My cell phone plans for my family has the CST based on that month's bill total. Not the full price of the two $700 phones or the total of the contract. And in the past when I've had NFL ST or NFL CI, the FL tax was based on the monthly total, not the total of those packages.
     
  19. TANK

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    I got a e-mail from ATT saying I had a balance due by 8/14. I always pay ATT the first week of every month. I checked and found the check had cleared. Next I go to ATT website and look at my account. It says I have a balance due of $82.62. That balance was a $48.99 NFLST installment and $33.63 taxes. I had already paid my usual bill total of $179.18 ( which included $17.56 in taxes ).

    So I click pay your bill and then click the chat option. I explain that there should no balance due since I cancelled the NFLST on 8/4. So after 20 minutes of her explaining how taxes are charged by the State of Florida. I try to explain that there is no way taxes should be a $33.63 on $48.99 single charge. I also tell her that after e-mailing the FL Dept Of Revenue,I was informed there is no luxury tax on sat programming or the NFLST.
    She says the $82.62 will be credited to my next bill.

    I tell there is no credit because I never made a payment on NFLST. She says if I don't pay by 8/14- ATT will charge me a late fee.

    I tell her I'm not paying the $82.62. If ATT charges me a late fee I will file a complaint with the State Of FL.
    Then I ask for a case worker.

    I get someone in the loyalty dept after another 20 mins of explaining this again he says he can give me a $12 credit. Ask for a caseworker again . He takes my phone number and says he talked to someone and they will call me in 30-40 mins.

    Hour later no call ,so back to the chat. I get Adam and after 15 mins of trying to sell me ATT wireless ,they say he will call me . So Adam calls and surprise Adam is a women from some place where English is the 2nd language. Adam puts me on hold and gets me "help". Another person from loyalty that says she made a note in my file that I was told on 8/4 that my balance due was $179.18 , so there should be no late charge and the $82.62 will zero out on the bill.

    So after around 2 hrs I finally get help.

    Hopefully next month's bill will be correct.

    I have been with D* since 1998 and for first time looked at what Dish has to offer.
     
  20. slice1900

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    Why wouldn't you just take the 82.62 credit and pay the 82.62 balance due, instead of wasting two more hours on the phone?
     

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