Anyone moving off GoDaddy?

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  1. Greg Alsobrook

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  2. dpeters11

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    I do think they would have 5 days to appeal.

    Part of the problem, the way I understand the bill, it would be enforced on the DNS server level. Which means servers outside the US could still provide the IP, or you just go directly to the IP address. This will do nothing to stop piracy, if someone wants to pirate music, they'd just connect by IP address.

    The other issue is this is one of the cases where they can say "you can't possibly be for piracy", just like in previous bills that they used certain pornography as an example. It's not the content that they say they want to prevent or protect, it's how they go about it, or how far it can be taken.

    Even the Business Software Alliance has concerns.
     
  3. Doug Brott

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    Sigh .. I'm not leaving GoDaddy. It's worked great as a service and I sure as heck don't give them enough money to make a meaningful difference either way. So, I'm going with the bang for the buck and sticking with what I've got.
     
  4. trh

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    First - 'you' have to be the US Justice Department OR the copyright holder to do so. And from a PC World article:
     
  5. Shades228

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    Piracy will always exist. However if an industry has rampant piracy then they need to realize that their business model needs to change.
     
  6. Marlin Guy

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    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...rces-godaddy-to-drop-its-support-for-sopa.ars

    Under intense pressure from an Internet-wide boycott, domain registrar GoDaddy has given the open Internet an early Christmas present: it's dropping its support for the Stop Online Piracy Act. The change was announced in a statement sent to Ars Technica:

    Go Daddy is no longer supporting SOPA, the "Stop Online Piracy Act" currently working its way through U.S. Congress.

    "Fighting online piracy is of the utmost importance, which is why Go Daddy has been working to help craft revisions to this legislation—but we can clearly do better," Warren Adelman, Go Daddy's newly appointed CEO, said. "It's very important that all Internet stakeholders work together on this. Getting it right is worth the wait. Go Daddy will support it when and if the Internet community supports it."

    GoDaddy's embarrassing climbdown took barely 24 hours. The boycott started on Thursday on reddit (an Ars sister site), but it quickly spread to the broader Internet. GoDaddy's competitors began offering special deals with promo codes like "SopaSucks" to entice GoDaddy switchers.

    Initially, GoDaddy was defiant. In a statement emailed to Ars Technica Thursday evening, the company said "Go Daddy has received some emails that appear to stem from the boycott prompt, but we have not seen any impact to our business."

    But this reaction only enraged GoDaddy's customers. And evidently, the impact on their business began to be more obvious on Friday.
     
  7. F1 Fan

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    Yup, just like with the current law.... except that you can go an ask You Tube and other sites that were told by the courts to remove material even though the complainant was not the copyright holder.

    Regardless of the specifics of who is who. Are you sure that you are happy that the government can censor a whole site/domain based on a small amount of possible content infringement that the owner had no responsibility for? If you are (and this has been shown to be anticonstitutional - which is worse than unconstitutional) then you wont complain when they take away other constitutional rights that you do care about?
     
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    It wont be at the DNS server level. It will be at the ICANN level (currently under Verisign control).

    For example, I run our own servers and domain name servers for lots of domains. But those name servers (which hold the dns for other servers) and their ip addresses have to be registered with ICANN and are the first lookup on the chain. The nameservers will be overridden. So it will be blocked everywhere.

    This is a major part of my companys business and we are looking closely at this.

    I despise piracy. As I have said before, we write software and I want paying for what we sell (we give lots away for free and discount too but it is our choice when and to whom).

    Someone came up with a scenario about how to stop pirates and this works. But they forgot all the "what ifs" which affect everyone. But more than that, this is about censorship and first amendment rights. Nothing has to be proven, just the same as now. I have seen You Tube and other content pulled because of complaints by non-copyright holders.

    As you said, someone is touting this as "if you are against it you must be for piracy" which is about as stupid as the bill itself.
     
  9. SayWhat?

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  10. Mark Holtz

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    If I am unable to run a perl script as a cron job which automatically backs up my MySQL DBs, then the web hosting provider is useless to me. I will not use GoDaddy for hosting.

    Now, about the domain registrar... won't transferring a domain name incur a one-year renewal fee per domain name? Right..... I don't have the money to transfer the thirty domain names that I personally "own".
     
  11. fluffybear

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    Ditto! A few years back, GoDaddy offered me the chance to renew our domain names for 20 years at some ridiculously low rate and I snatched it up. Web-hosting and any other services are done somewhere else.
     
  12. SayWhat?

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    But the Domain Name is what gets blocked, so no matter where your site pages are hosted, GoDuddy can block your sites on a whim.

    How do you know they won't flip-flop again if they get pressured from the Pro-Censorship crowd?
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    It seems silly (to me) to move due to a lot of "what ifs." For all of my domain names, I'm not doing anything illegal, nor am I doing anything that would even warrant attention from most people in the world. I'm not even concerned IF the power is granted.

    I'm more concerned with how it will affect me personally .. It won't either way .. so, since I think GoDaddy provides a good/easy to use service at a reasonable price I have no reason to move.
     
  14. dpeters11

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    It's interesting that GoDaddy is being called easy to use. I'm fairly technical, but their site and management tools have always seemed very confusing to me.
     
  15. RasputinAXP

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    They're convoluted on purpose. Their user interface is positively awful. AWFUL.
     
  16. dpeters11

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    All about the upsell.
     
  17. Grentz

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    So where the heck are people moving to? From the looks of it most major domain registrars will be involved with this anyhow at some point in time. BTW, most of the companies out there are just reselling the major domain registration services as their own.

    Godaddy, while like a friggin ad farm and something I would NEVER host my sites on, has been great as a registrar. Their updates are fast, their domain admin panel is easy to use, and their prices are good.

    Combine that with the fact that nothing on my domains conflicts with these laws, I am not really worried. Right now the process is that you will get take down notices, so the people that should be worried probably already know.
     
  18. Grentz

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    Their ordering/public facing stuff is CRAP and full of marketing BS and upsell sh*t.

    BUT, their domain admin panel is really good. I have always found it easy to use and clearer than many of the others that are out there. It has a nice "single pane of glass" view of all your info.
     
  19. SPACEMAKER

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    Had Go Daddy not switched their stance I'd have pulled my business from them on January 1st. It's not much but I'd have been vocal about it.
     
  20. Shades228

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    Apparently the numbers are up to 70000 domains now that are lost and other companies are offering promotions and incentives just to switch. According to the article one company is heavily discounting the fee and asks for a $1 donation to the EFF. I'm posting this article mainly for the other information as the claims that they are limiting whois requests is just from one registrar.


    http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57348511-281/godaddy-accused-of-interfering-with-anti-sopa-exodus/
     

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