So it looks like the iPad 3 will get announced today along with a new Apple TV.
Should be interesting.
Speculation?
Should be interesting.
Speculation?
I shared a legit performance comparison test in an earlier post (#266) showing all 3 versions of the iPad to date - without opinion.TBlazer07 said:WHile I would love to agree with you the test was ridiculous. The fact they gave an iPad 2 to 2 "non-geeks" (disinterested persons) of course they wouldn't care or notice. If they gave them both devices and put them side-by-side it might make a difference. The "statictics" are totally "invalid."
Considering Gizmodo=Gawker it's understandable. They do have a hard-xx against Apple after the iPhone 4 affair. I'm no Apple fan either (read my post a few back).
Not talking about a performance test here, just a GAWKER.COM (Gizmodo) stupid pet trick test. While it is probably correct it was statistically meaningless for making a general conclusion.hdtvfan0001 said:I shared a legit performance comparison test in an earlier post (#266) showing all 3 versions of the iPad to date - without opinion.
As that benchmark test shows...performance on the new iPad in comparison to the iPad 2 is only nominally increased (a surprise), however, it was a smart move for Apple to improve upon their screen resolution. Overall, I suspect most new iPad users will enjoy their devices.
I have intentionally refrained from my own observations, having spent about 1 1/2 hours with a new iPad on the first day I saw them at my local Best Buy. I came to the exact same conclusions as you...but as an owner...your views are far more valuable on this topic than mine.TBlazer07 said:Not talking about a performance test here, just a GAWKER.COM (Gizmodo) stupid pet trick test. While it is probably correct it was statistically meaningless for making a general conclusion.
Frankly, other then the better screen which "is nice" they are the same. However for the "normal" everyday user it's really no big deal. Performance is virtually identical or (as some report) worse. The new camera is meaningless. LTE is "cool" but how much speed do you really need to surf the web, data costs in the end will go crazy with people streaming on LTE because their data will be gone quickly. Some guy said he did a test and he streamed an HD movie and it sucked up all his 2GB (ATT & VZW will LOVE that), Battery charging is horrid, it takes forever due to the much larger battery. That's going to be the next big brouhaha to keep the Apple world in a tizzy. You now have a battery almost twice a large being charged at the same rate so it should take almost twice as long to charge give or take a few.
I only upgraded because I like to have the "latest and (allegedly) greatest." I could have easily lived with the 2. Overall it really didn't mean much other than something new to play with.
I honestly can't imagine they will sell nearly as many as they did for the 2 because *MOST* people don't care.
Or it speaks volumes for their design, functionality, and ease of use.Rob77 said:This sums up the blind buying of most Apple Fan Boys.....yes, this site is filled with them....and they do whatever Apple tells them.
http://gizmodo.com/5894094/we-people-an-ipad-2-told-them-it-was-the-new-ipad-and-they-loved-it
Don't be too quick to dismiss the newer display. Most apps have not been updated yet to take advantage of the higher resolution. There is a new section in the app store with the upgraded apps.TBlazer07 said:Frankly, other then the better screen which "is nice" they are the same. However for the "normal" everyday user it's really no big deal.
I think the people that would care are the ones in the same position I was in. I only had an iPad 1 so going to the "new" iPad is a nice upgrade. I can see where going from a 2 to "new" isn't a super leap though.TBlazer07 said:I honestly can't imagine they will sell nearly as many as they did for the 2 because *MOST* people don't care.
Even if now takes 5 hours instead of 3 hours, as long as the battery charges overnight and lasts all day, folks won't care, IMO.TBlazer07 said:You now have a battery almost twice a large being charged at the same rate so it should take almost twice as long to charge give or take a few.
I know for me, while I have one of the LTE models, the screen alone was enough for me to justify going from the iPad 2 to this one.klang said:Don't be too quick to dismiss the newer display. Most apps have not been updated yet to take advantage of the higher resolution. There is a new section in the app store with the upgraded apps.
There's already a Dragon Dictation app for the iPad, and one for the iPhone, and it's free.Steve said:At some point, would be great if recognition engines could sit on the tablets instead of the cloud. I checked, though and Dragon Dictate Home for Win 7 requires 2.5 GB of disk space and 2 GB of RAM, so we're probably not going to see it running on tablets anytime soon.
Ya. I used it on both my iPad2 and my iPod, but it's not stand-alone, like the Windows app. It also requires you to be on-line.RunnerFL said:There's already a Dragon Dictation app for the iPad, and one for the iPhone, and it's free.
Ahhh, ok. I hadn't tried it, I just knew it existed.Steve said:Ya. I used it on both my iPad2 and my iPod, but it's not stand-alone, like the Windows app. It also requires you to be on-line.
And it's not integrated into the OS, so it's not a simple keyboard alternative, like it is now with the new iPad and iOS 5.1. IIRC, you have to run the Dragon app, dictate, and then cut and paste it. It may have changed, though. Haven't tried it recently.
Ya. I'm waiting to see some detailed guidance on how to use it effectively. There may be ways around to/too/two/2, but the iPad 5.1 user guide is pretty vague. All I could find out is what I snipped below.RunnerFL said:I just dictated my first email with my new iPad. Pretty cool but I'm not sure how much faster it is than actually typing. I type pretty fast and you still wind up going back and correcting things like changing "to" to "2" when you mean the number, not the word.
Yeah, I went from 3G to 4 on iPhone and 1 to "new" on iPad. I may go to 5 on the iPhone, or I bet they call it "new" as well, depending upon the features.Stewart Vernon said:I agree on the leap-frogging upgrades. I felt the same on the iPhones.
I had a 3G... the 3GS model wasn't worth running for... even though it had a video camera instead of just still-camera... but the iPhone 4 was a huge jump over the 3G so I upgraded. Similarly, the newer 4S model isn't a huge jump so I stood pat.
I wasn't really tempted for an iPad 2... but the new iPad is a much bigger leap over the original iPad so it is now tempting.
Same here. My wife went from the original iPhone to the 4 to the 4S after her 4 got lost/stolen. Bought a refurb 3GS for our daughter who will get my wife's 4S when we upgrade to the "5". I expect the 5 to be a significant upgrade, specifically a larger screen.RunnerFL said:Yeah, I went from 3G to 4 on iPhone and 1 to "new" on iPad. I may go to 5 on the iPhone, or I bet they call it "new" as well, depending upon the features.
I'm not dismissing it, it is most definitely better. My point is "so what?" How does it change how you do things? It's not a game changer, and everything would have worked the same except I might see the tiny pixels with my nose 6" from the screen with the 2 instead of 1" with the 3. Everything would still work the same, same apps, same speed (or maybe more) and faster charging.klang said:Don't be too quick to dismiss the newer display. Most apps have not been updated yet to take advantage of the higher resolution. There is a new section in the app store with the upgraded apps.
Yes, Best Buy had the AppleTV's but of course I ordered one early in the morning for store pickup. I must admit that the 1080p movies look pretty darn good! Very close to Blu-Ray.Herdfan said:Did they have it? Mine did not. But yes, plenty of iPads.
It appears that ZDNET (and other similar reviews on the web) agree with your assessment:TBlazer07 said:It's not a game changer, and everything would have worked the same except I might see the tiny pixels with my nose 6" from the screen with the 2 instead of 1" with the 3. Everything would still work the same, same apps, same speed (or maybe more) and faster charging.
I think everyone (me included) is caught up in the hype and is trying to rationalize spending the bucks.
I think the new iPad screen looks great and very much worth the price of admission. I did some reading last night and the text just pops right out. It reminds me a lot of when I went from the iPhone 3GS to the iPhone 4. Smaller objects and text are much clearer and easier to read. Also, the 4G LTE isn't just cool, it's amazing! The speeds I get on LTE are faster than my home internet connection. I agree about the data usage though and I'm just glad that I still have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.TBlazer07 said:I'm not dismissing it, it is most definitely better. My point is "so what?" How does it change how you do things? It's not a game changer, and everything would have worked the same except I might see the tiny pixels with my nose 6" from the screen with the 2 instead of 1" with the 3. Everything would still work the same, same apps, same speed (or maybe more) and faster charging.
I think everyone (me included) is caught up in the hype and is trying to rationalize spending the bucks. If I wasn't such a sucker I would have taken the $563 bucks I got for my 16GB ATT iPad 2 and just repurchased it without the LTE (another big meh - but I do want the GPS) for $350 reconditioned from Apple with new battery, new case and full 1 yr warranty and spent the extra $200 on something else.
I can easily counter several of his points but don't really feel the need. It's obvious where he is coming from. Bias in my opinion.hdtvfan0001 said:It appears that ZDNET (and other similar reviews on the web) agree with your assessment:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/diy-it/16-reasons-not-to-buy-a-new-ipad-including-7-that-havent-changed-from-earlier-ipads/462
That could very well be...then again....bias is often a 2-way street.Chris Blount said:I can easily counter several of his points but don't really feel the need. It's obvious where he is coming from. Bias in my opinion.
While im on the Android side of things I typically look at things from an unbiased view point...I will say that most if not all of the guys reasons seem to be cost related, and if thats the case, its like saying not everyone should go buy that snazzy expensive TV too...Chris Blount said:I can easily counter several of his points but don't really feel the need. It's obvious where he is coming from. Bias in my opinion.
If course but he still doesn't get it and uses the same old arguments that don't make any sense.:hdtvfan0001 said:That could very well be...then again....bias is often a 2-way street.
OKEY DOKEY.Chris Blount said:If course but he still doesn't get it and uses the same old arguments that don't make any sense.:
Reason 10: There's still no USB port - Don't need it.
Reason 11: You still have to use iTunes too often - Duh, it's an Apple product.
Reason 12: There's still no removable storage - Don't need it.
Reason 13: Kindles are still much less expensive - Because they do less.
Reason 14: You can still only run software approved by Apple - Duh, it's an Apple product.
Reason 15: It still can't be used as a standalone computer - It wasn't meant to be.
Reason 16: Apple still won't let you write or run programs that execute programs. - Closed ecosystem for a reason.