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Are any receivers responsive?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by stroh, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. PCampbell

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    My HR24s are more than fast enough running 62C. Not so good on the last software version. I had a HR21 and it was so slow to the point I could not use it.
     
  2. jimmie57

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    I use the page up or down until I find something intersting. Get a new page, scan it and then , if necessary, move on to the next page.
     
  3. tigerwillow1

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    I don't condone, but understand, that if the CPU is heavily loaded a complex operation can take a while. Displaying the guide or the recording list is IMO probably somewhat complex. But I don't get the delay for doing something simple, like taking 5+ seconds to display the Quick Tune guide after pressing the 'up' button, or sometimes ignoring remote keypresses for 5+ seconds after hitting the stop button. This is with an H22.
     
  4. Rich

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    I cleaned out an HDD the other day and it took what seemed like forever. Now that's slowness, but how often do we do something like that?

    I wish you lived near me, I could show you HRs that are not slow in any of the viewing functions. It's just that HD GUI that needs to be fixed. Altho, I don't usually see any slowness with the GUI that I don't expect.

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  5. Rich

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    My 24-500s scroll thru the Guide so fast it's impossible to read anything. Or they did, I gave up on holding the Arrow buttons down to long when in the guide. Aside from that, my experiences with the 24s mirror yours.

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  6. Rich

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    Try a 24, you'll see the difference immediately. I just picked up another 24 on eBay the other day for $75 + shipping and the $20 for the access card. No comittment renewal when activating.

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  7. Mike Greer

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    I think you'd have to compare it to a Dish Network receiver to see what I'm talking about.... Although it is easier to see since the HDGUI came out.

    Not the end of the world - just wish DirecTV receivers could keep up with the smooth speed of my good old 622 from 5 or 6 years ago. Hard to believe the HR34 is slower than the HR24 - at least that what most are saying... I haven't seen one myself. Seems like they are going the wrong direction!
     
  8. Rich

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    I know this about the three 24s: If you do a complete reset of a large MRV system, the 24-500s populate a WHOLE lot faster than the 24-100s do. Seeing as how they both have the same OS, it must be the hardware of the 100s. At least that seems logical to me. I do know they have different chip sets.

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  9. Rich

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    As your HDD becomes fuller the 23 will slow down. The series links don't cause slowness of any kind that I've ever seen.

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  10. Rich

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    Yup, I have no idea what a Dish DVR even looks like. That GUI...makes me wonder if wishing for something (I didn't wish for an HD GUI) is worth it.

    Five tuners, it's kinda surprising it works as well as I've read.

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  11. patmurphey

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    FYI - Hopper guide (The bottom row can be deactivated for another channel row.) Paging or typing a channel number is the best way to scroll.

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  12. JeffBowser

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    I would, and have seriously thought about it when it first came out, for all the breathless reviews. Some wee small voice told me to wait. Sure enough, after some time, I started seeing the first of many complaints that it became nearly as slow as the previous generations. I'm holding out for a quantum leap. The processing power is available, they just need to decide to put it in their boxes.

     
  13. TMan

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    Three hours in the grid...what a concept!

    It would be nice to see all of evening primetime, or beyond one long-ish movie, while looking for programs to watch/record.
     
  14. Laxguy

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    You might like a custom guide, such as you can make on TitanTV or similar sites. Even DIRECTV's online guide is three hours.
     
  15. pappasbike

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    I wanted to update a previous post of mine. I've had the 34 for a couple of weeks now and compared to the 21 that it replaced this is heaven. Even though I had to cough up the money to get it, it has saved me so much daily aggravation that it was well worth it. Even if it didn't have the additional features that it has.

    Prior to my 21s I had the HR20 which was fine except for being quite noisy. Than after a particular software update there were frequent episodes of some type of disk activity which was audibly noticeable. During these periods the 20 would barely respond to any remote input, guide scrolling extremely slow, etc. Then I got these replaced with the 21s hoping for an improvement. There was one improvement, they were considerably quieter than the 20. But the scrolling, channel changing, bringing up the guide, just about everything I do with a tv was as bad as using a dial up modem on your computer. Frustrating enough that if they were the only DTV HD dvr option I would cancel my service and not think twice about it. I've been a loyal customer for 12 years and I paid up front to get the 34 so I want to stay with their service but those dvrs are an abomination which should be recalled and destroyed!

    Anyway back to the 34. In all the ways I was frustrated with the 21s this has been a huge improvement. There are some issues which so far have been minor ( from reading on here I'm glad I didn't get it when first released ) and overall acceptable given the improvement I am getting in those other areas. I've read that overall most people are also happy with the 24s which I was also considering getting but decided to just go for this. In my opinion these two should be the only HD dvrs they install.
     
  16. rmmccann

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    I noticed this weekend that as I spent more and more time on sports networks (ESPN, NFLN and NFLST) the slower my receiver (HR34) would get. At one point it was pretty unresponsive for 20-30 seconds. In-between games I was doing the channel 1 trick (and the NVRAM clear just for "good" measure) and that cleared up the responsiveness issues right away.

    The slowdown almost HAS to have something to do with the random TV apps that are available. I think they should give us the option to completely disable or selectively disable unused Apps to maybe prevent this. Score Guide, although handy, is hardly used in my household and I could live without it, especially in the days of smartphones and tablets.

    I don't know if it was in this thread or another, but I also think DirecTV would be smart moving towards a "modular" receiver design. IE: use something like an HR24 with two tuners available and make parts like the HD (for DVR) and power supply end-user swappable. You'd still probably have to keep the HR34 and C31s separate since they are so different from the norm, but if you give yourself only 3-4 models of receivers to write software for, you can completely optimize the code and hopefully get rid of some of these performance issues. This also allows the benefit of not making your customers unhappy when you send them a 3 year old replacement DVR for the one that puked due to a bad part, you just ship the part and the customer or a tech swaps it and everyone is happy again.

    Regardless, it's not enough of an issue for me to want to switch, but I did find it very noticeable over this last weekend in particular.
     
  17. jimmie57

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    When you go to these sports channels, try pressing the exit button a couple of times until you hear it make the bonk sound. This turns off the Interactive Scoring, The surf the guide or change channels, etc. and see if this keeps the speed up.
    Veryoldschool posted this quite awhile back in this thread and I have been using it and it appears to work for me with my HR23 and HR24.
     
  18. rmmccann

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    Thanks. Yeah, I've tried that and it wasn't doing much for me yesterday. It would help when switching between games, but when I would switch back to a normal channel and then come back later it seemed to go bonkers (even with exit key presses). Yesterday my HR34 was just cranky. Friday (was watching some college ball) it was bad but not as bad as Sunday - I also spent more time on one network as opposed to switching games every commercial break.
     
  19. Mike Greer

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    Let’s hope that someone in DirecTV engineering and/or management is embarrassed enough to actually do something about DirecTV DVRs. I don’t have much hope – it has been more than 6 years of what seems to be mediocre engineering… The ideas are great – the features are great – the implementation sucks!

    With threads like this http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=211290 about their latest and greatest things don’t look to get better any time soon. Their latest and greatest is now a year old and still seems to have significant issues with basic features of a DVR.

    Here’s hoping for a change in DirecTV someday soon…
     
  20. veryoldschool

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    "You know it's Monday when..."
    You need to scour the forum for someone else's vent to support your agenda.
    Has my HR34 done the same thing? Yes, it did back in June when I first got it. Has it done it in the last several months? nope.

    If I had an agenda, I'm sure I could find other posts on the internet that would support my agenda, regardless of what or who it was about.
     

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