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Are you willing to pay for mrv, and if so, how much?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by hdtvfan0001, Jan 26, 2010.

How much are you willing to pay for MRV?

  1. Nothing

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. $1-2

    907 vote(s)
    68.5%
  3. $3-4

    228 vote(s)
    17.2%
  4. $5-6

    130 vote(s)
    9.8%
  5. $7 or more

    60 vote(s)
    4.5%
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  1. Feb 4, 2010 #721 of 1107
    Steve

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    Lower...
    I only see 18% willing to pay up to $2 in those results.

    It would appear that if MRV is released with a monthly fee of any amount, 66% claim they're unwilling to pay even $1-$2, which I find hard to believe. E.g., even though I feel in principle I shouldn't pay for MRV if I support my own network, the reality is I wouldn't deny myself MRV to save $1-$2 per month. That would be biting my nose to spite my face.
     
  2. Feb 4, 2010 #722 of 1107
    Sixto

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    which will probably be the case for MANY households. :)
     
  3. Feb 4, 2010 #723 of 1107
    Richierich

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    Posters may Vote to not Pay for MRV so if Directv is viewing this Thread then it may help persuade Directv Not to Charge for MRV.

    That being said Directv has already stated that there will be a Charge for MRV and I would bet that most who stated they wouldn't pay $1 or $2 will Pay for it in a Heartbeat unless they just don't need the MRV Feature (as in they only have 2 DVRs).
     
  4. Feb 4, 2010 #724 of 1107
    hdtvfan0001

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    I stated $2 OR LESS, which would include NO FEE. :rolleyes:

    Again, stating it and doing it may not be the same thing that actually occurs, once the MRV pricing plan (if any) is announced.
     
  5. Feb 4, 2010 #725 of 1107
    leww37334

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    I started to think about the following in regard to the DECA vs router ethernet solutions:

    1. Directv is advertising MRV on their websites and allowing people to opt in.
    2. Under accessories,on the website, they still offer the wireless interconnection kit (WGA).
    3. Under accessories, they do not offer DECA.
    4. They do not offer SWM LNB's on their website.

    Conclusion: The only way people (who don't have DECA's already) can opt in (through Directv only) is through the use of the router (non DECA) solution.

    Effectively, Directv is currently promoting a non DECA solution. Given the above I would think it would be hard to change to a SWM/DECA only solution later. Of course I am assuming Liberty Media adheres to the rules of logic, probably a bad assumption.
     
  6. Feb 4, 2010 #726 of 1107
    Steve

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    Lower...
    And I stand by my comment.
     
  7. Feb 4, 2010 #727 of 1107
    Hutchinshouse

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    I’ve said it before, if we setup our own network and support it, MRV should be fee free. If we require H/W upgrade and/or DIRECTV support, then there should be a small fee. Maybe kind of like when you get a new receiver. DIRECTV locks you in for another two year commitment. If you require MRV support, you’re locked in for another two year commitment, or you’re locked in for the MRV fee (whatever that may be).
     
  8. Feb 4, 2010 #728 of 1107
    Doug Brott

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    You're both kinda looking at the data wrong .. Really, about 35% are willing to pay something per month and 65% are willing to pay nothing per month.

    Keep in mind some of those 65% may not even have the equipment necessary since that wasn't broken out.

    As for those willing to pay $2 or less .. Yeah, it's 80%, but it's also misleading as 65% of that 80% aren't willing to pay $2 .. Steve's more accurate in saying it's 18%.

    VOS said it earlier and really the ONLY thing that you can get from this chart is that roughly 35% of the enthusiasts here are willing to pay up to $2/month. Trying to get anything else from the poll is probably futile.
     
  9. Feb 4, 2010 #729 of 1107
    hdtvfan0001

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    Other than the vast majority are opposed to paying ANY FEE. ;):D

    As several of us have stated before...what is "voted" in this poll or stated in this thread - and what is actually done once any FEE is announced might very well be 3 different things anyway.
     
  10. Feb 4, 2010 #730 of 1107
    Doug Brott

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    Liberty Media no longer owns DIRECTV .. DIRECTV is on it's own now.

    Keep in mind, DIRECTV really isn't "promoting" MRV. It's on a somewhat hidden web page and the opt-in is in a well hidden menu selection. Also, the language of these sources makes it very clear that it is Beta and unsupported.

    The only EASY way for DIRECTV to say, "yeah, they've got a capable network" is to support a DECA only solution. It works from installation all the way through to customer service with little or no fanfare. A home solution will work for many folks here because you've bought quality equipment and done an excellent job of terminating cables. Can that be said of all of DIRECTV's customers? Not necessarily and in fact, probably not. Folks may have Wireless-G or Powerline and wonder why they don't work well. Turns out, unfortunately, they don't really work that well (particularly for HD).

    If there were an easy way for DIRECTV to say "Yup, great network" or "Nope, crappy network" then I don't think support for non-DECA would be an issue. The problem really is that the variation in equipment, installations and maintenance make it impossible to easily make that determination. As a result, for most situations, DECA will be the required facility for MRV.
     
  11. Feb 4, 2010 #731 of 1107
    Doug Brott

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    Oh, certainly .. I kinda expect everyone to give just a little .. go up a buck or two over stated .. (generally speaking folks) .. But we'll see. We don't even know the actual cost yet.
     
  12. Feb 4, 2010 #732 of 1107
    hdtvfan0001

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    Wondering out loud if somehow we'll find out :Dsoon:D....with the 2/9 price changes coming and all anyway....??????
     
  13. Feb 4, 2010 #733 of 1107
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    My conclusion from that is that D* simply isn't ready to roll out the DECA solution yet. But they wanted time to get and incorporate feedback for the MRV function. This is why D* is telling people to not change their hardware just yet for this MRV beta program. D* will offer something in the future, they're just not ready yet.

    However, I agree with your conclusion (just not how you got there). It's going to cost a lot of money for D* to upgrade all of these existing installations to SWM just so they can have MRV. And then they'll slap a 2-year contract on them, which they may or may not mention. :D

    I think that DECA isn't the way to go if you already have D* and already have a router. DECA is more for new customers, especially those who don't have a high-speed Internet connection. If you have such a connection, then you already have a wireless router. Get wireless bridge or powerline adapters and you are good to go. You can sell them when you're done, and there's no additional 2-year commitment.
     
  14. Feb 4, 2010 #734 of 1107
    jdspencer

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    I would think that most customers that have HD DVRs have them connected to a home network for DoD. Therefore, a fee for MRV for these customers should be $0 as long as they don't ask for support from them. You can get better support here anyway. :)
    If you go for the DECA solution then yes a fee of some sort could be charged.
    Hopefully, they don't shut down LAN MRV when this feature comes out of Beta. :)
     
  15. Feb 4, 2010 #735 of 1107
    veryoldschool

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    These will have mixed results. Some may find they work fine and others won't.
     
  16. Feb 4, 2010 #736 of 1107
    susanandmark

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    There is no way a fee for some customers, vs no fee for others, based on hardware would ever work. I could see charging upfront equipment costs and a contract extension, but the fee for the same service has to be equal across the board. (And this from someone who has an in-home network already and wouldn't let DirecTV install staff into my house to plug in a toaster, let alone set-up a network.)

    I'm also confused about those who say they need MRV MORE if they have more DVRs. I'd think it would be the opposite. The more DVRs you have, the more recording options/TV viewing locales you have already, I think the less MRV would mean to you, not more.

    Look, we've got five HD DVRs (2 on one TV to get past that 50-show limit and provide sports, kids and cooking options for the whole family at all times). We're already recording duplicate things on many of these systems, so that we can watch what we want, where we want. My son doesn't even know how to watch something on live TV and I can't remember the last time we did either, minus my husband and sporting events (and even those he usually starts watching an hour or so in, so he can fast-forward commercials and "catch up").

    On the other hand, my best friend has two DVRs and, while she uses them, she's much more likely to use on-demand or just channel surf other than a few "must watch" shows she records. Drives me crazy, but to each their own.
     
  17. Feb 4, 2010 #737 of 1107
    Spicoli

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    I completely agree with this. I purchased all of the required equipment and ran all the cables for my home network. I did all this to be able to use all the available features of my DirecTV receivers. The network works flawlessly. This was all done before MRV was on the table. Now it's going to cost more at some point in the future if I want to have MRV. Just frustrating. :mad:
     
  18. Feb 4, 2010 #738 of 1107
    hdtvfan0001

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    It could be frustrating.

    Before I get frustrated in agreement....I'm going to wait for the formal "announcement" on the MRV post-beta plans. It's too early for any of us to "require therapy" over it now. :D:lol:
     
  19. Feb 4, 2010 #739 of 1107
    Richierich

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    I'll pay for it if I have to and I'll throw in an extra dollar if I get a UPL which is Selectable by DVR!!! :D
     
  20. Feb 4, 2010 #740 of 1107
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    Give a little?

    new SWM LNB $136
    each DECA converter - guess $50x2 min
    $4 per month additional also guess

    plus an added two year commitment for new equipment


    and that doesn't count the wireless n equipment I have bought just to make MRV work in the first place.

    Directv drops the non DECA solution I will almost certainly drop Directv.

    The poll needs a drop Directv box added.


    JOIN THE REVOLUTION
     
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