Are you worried about energy consumption?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Hunter844, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Yep, if someone could design an efficient compressor design, the US electric consumption would plummet.
    I looked into using solar panels to do nothing but run the compressor on the A/C during the hot part of the day, and the cost was just way to high. None of the alternative green options are affordable for anyone with an average income.
     
  2. Jhon69

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    They already have it it's called the scroll compressor.;)


    I had my brother-in-law who has his own AC business decide what to put in our home in 1990.His answer was a split system which uses 40% less electricity,my SEER rating in my unit is 12.0 which in 1990 was a decent rating,because you have to figure in the payback figure(how many years to makeup the savings versus cost?).Now you can get 12.0 SEER and higher in a all outdoor system,of course the split systems are even higher rated now.:)
     
  3. jsk

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    I'm looking into Solar City that Google just dumped a boatload of money into. If this pans out, it should save some money, but I'm still skeptical at this point. I also just bought new appliances too that are energy efficient. That should more than offset the energy usage from the DVR :)
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Besides the cost... you have a lot of HOAs against solar panels. Even if I got rich tomorrow, my HOA forbids solar panels... so I would have to move before I could put them in...
     
  5. SayWhat?

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  6. SeaBeagle

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    No not concerned about energy consumption.

    To add I do use the new bulbs because they last longer.
     
  7. BillJ

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    I use CFL bulbs and will switch to LED bulbs eventually but I'm not going to start unplugging everything and rebooting when I want to use the computer or watch TV. Manufacturers are working to reduce standby draw where possible but if you have hard drives spinning and cooling required there's only so much you can do.

    Sometimes I think this conservation discussion is a bit like the advice I constantly see to never cut more than 1" off the top of my lawn. Great in theory but who has time to mow every other day? And if you did imagaine the pollution and energy consumption from that.
     
  8. Laxguy

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    Hmmm. 9 cents! TVA effect?
     
  9. gpollock87

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    yep ;)
     
  10. Stuart Sweet

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    Of course I am worried about energy consumption. I'm more worried about energy production. Using less, or using it smartly, is important, but I think the ideal future is one where electricity is generated so easily and cheaply that you don't have to worry about it.
     
  11. yogi

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    The study says

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  12. Laxguy

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    Sounds like simply a pissing contest, with ecological trappings a sidelight (pun intended) that made it "news". Both guys sound like db's.
     
  13. Hunter844

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    Dave,

    Lennox has a system that features a solar panel as an option, but I don't know who much energy savings you can expect. The downfall is I imagine the install cost vs. actual ROI don't add up. Think north of $13 grand, but I'm just guessing.

    I do highly recommend making sure whoever quotes the work does their homework. A lot of times contractors will simply quote the capacity that already exists in the home instead of doing a proper load calculation. This is important because of lot of times home owners do improvements over the years to their home that changes these load factors so the reality is you may not need a 3 ton as example...might be more like a 2.5 ton.

    And for the record the next generation of compressor technology is already in practice in what are called "ductless mini-splits". They are known as Inverter compressors. Ducted Air to Air systems are now starting to toy with implementing the technology but we're probably another 5 years away from seeing it become mainstream...Copeland Scroll is just too good a design drop in favor of R&D Inverter tech which also require a lot of power filters, control boards, power inverters and the like.
     
  14. samhevener

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    It would be nice to see a chart on the monthly power usage of each of it's receivers using the average on/off times.
     
  15. pfred

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    Wow! Some of those midwest states are getting off cheap! I wonder why. Is it taxes, or is cow manure a good, cheap source of electricity?

    (Sorry, couldn't post the link. It says I need 5 posts to post a link)
     
  16. davejacobson

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    Most of us care about energy consumption.If you want to enjoy modern equipment you end up using alot of energy. Low cost production is the key. Here is coal country our rates are .07 cents off peak can be down to .03. Coal is not as dirty as its made out to be and is cheap and plentiful. A new clean coal plant would be nice but the regulators would rather see high prices not cheap energy.Looking at the US energy policy I think that is true for all energy across the board.
     
  17. jsk

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    So if you are in California and want to ensure you will continue to have a view of the Southern sky for satellite, then install a solar panel.
     
  18. olds403

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    I agree completely. They were planning to build a new coal plant locally but caved to environmental pressure and decided to build a natural gas plant instead which will cost more to build and result in higher electric rates.
     
  19. P Smith

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    "decided to build a natural gas plant instead"
    Your kids and grand-kids will say thank for it - clean air is priceless.
     
  20. Laxguy

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    That's not likely- the part about the plant being more expensive. Higher rates, yeah, prolly, but halfway clean burning coal plants have a lot more "plant" to them than gas fired ones. Some one on the PUC or at the company is lying.
     

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